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Old 01-06-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Geez you drank all the kool-aid. Obamacare was so bad people voted for a man who promised to get rid of it. Doesn't that tell you anything? It should.

My HC insurance was very good, a hell of a lot better than after Obamacare and geared toward my families needs, not some strangers needs like Obamacare was. Pre Obamacare, I had the right to choose. After Obamacare, my choice was taken away, although I didn't want to pay sky high premiums for a policy that didn't meet my needs, gov't forced me to, that's tyranny.
Not just that-but it was so bad that they passed a law that said you HAD to buy it. And if you couldn't afford it (or didn't think you were getting reasonable value for your money) you were fined.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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Especially when it hat $6-8K deductibles, on top of a premium cost. Lousy coverage-at a high price. Just what we don't need. And finally we will have options-at least in my state.

We will be getting back to being able to by the catastrophic care insurance (aka major medical) that we need to prevent bankruptcy, but avoid paying for "maintenance" insurance that does so much to drive the costs to obscene levels.

Now, here's the thing. If you like your Obamacare, you can actually KEEP your Obamacare. If you like paying obscene premiums for lousy coverage, no one is stopping you. But now you have a choice.

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Old 01-06-2018, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Suddenly, that is Lefties new talking point. It was a Right Wing plan all along, they say, so we Right Wingers should be supportive. Forever.

Same with Obamaphone. It was a Right Wing idea. So all Right Wingers have to support it. Forever.

Nonsense. It was a bad law and that's why it is becoming extinct. Your transparent attempt to humiliate, embarrass or intimidate conservatives into supporting Obamacare is laughable.
Thing is, they are playing the Goebbels card. Tell the same lie long enough and it will be the truth. Thing is-people aren't all as stupid as liberals. They KNOW this was a Democrat plan-passed with not a single GOP vote. Dems own it-but now are trying to lie their way out of it.

It's pretty telling that even Dems know it's such a disaster that they are trying to blame the GOP for it.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:28 PM
 
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Thing is, they are playing the Goebbels card. Tell the same lie long enough and it will be the truth. Thing is-people aren't all as stupid as liberals. They KNOW this was a Democrat plan-passed with not a single GOP vote. Dems own it-but now are trying to lie their way out of it.

correct

So unpopular it created the 2010 GOP wave election
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Well how does that work? I'm also in Idaho. Can I change right now to something that is more reasonable? I'm paying a thousand dollars a month to cover two of us and don't need maternity or mental health stuff. What people don't want to have to do is actually read all the pages of the policy they are buying. The only way to make that unnecessary is to make every policy cover everything. I would rather pay less because I don't need coverage for things that don't apply to me.
I'm waiting to find out as well. The EO was just signed yesterday. We have insurance through work now, but did have to deal with the O-care mess when my wife switched jobs a couple years ago. $400 a month for the cheapest plan-$8k deductible. Basically was useless. But heck-it paid for contraceptives!!!! (yeah)

Good or bad-now we have a choice. Certainly even liberals support choice now, don't they?
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Let me get this. None of you went for yearly physical, flu shots, mammograms, colon ostomies and other preventative tests before O care. Then a state wants to go back to pre O care with ridicules costs and nothing paid for so you can stop getting at least preventative care.

That is crazy.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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Why would they try O-care again? We already KNOW what a disaster that is.
Except it wasn't and is not?
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Except it wasn't and is not?
If you consider 40% annual increases in premiums "not a disaster", I gather you live in one of those states where weed is legal.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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Let me get this. None of you went for yearly physical, flu shots, mammograms, colon ostomies and other preventative tests before O care. Then a state wants to go back to pre O care with ridicules costs and nothing paid for so you can stop getting at least preventative care.

That is crazy.
My insurance at work covers all of that, and costs me $50 a month pre tax, with no co-pays on your list of items.
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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If you consider 40% annual increases in premiums "not a disaster", I gather you live in one of those states where weed is legal.
Not yet, we are working on it, live in the Midwest. Now tell us legal marijuana is bad thing too, even though almost all statistics say otherwise. The world must be a scary place when facts seem to be working against you.
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