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Old 01-07-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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Let’s find out who the trump supporters are and make them build the wall for free since they want it do much. Maga right?

And let's see who objects to the wall and make them pay the $100 billion a year that illegal aliens costs us. Deal? Yes, MAGA!
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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So, if there were no jobs in the US but lots of super cheap products, you believe that is a good thing.
Wait, I thought the economy was booming and there were plenty of jobs given the low unemployment rate? That is despite not having a wall. How is that possible? Which version of reality are you trying to project here?
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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And let's see who objects to the wall and make them pay the $100 billion a year that illegal aliens costs us. Deal? Yes, MAGA!
Oh look, more made up "facts" paraded about as intelligent discourse.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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Wait, I thought the economy was booming and there were plenty of jobs given the low unemployment rate? That is despite not having a wall. How is that possible? Which version of reality are you trying to project here?
Could you please provide a quote for me on those?
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Here's some more basic mathematics for you. Unless we remove all of the incentives for them to come here such as birthright citizenship and benefits for their kids jobs alone won't do it. Also, criminals and terrorists aren't looking for jobs, thus the wall. It's partly our government's fault that Mexicans and other illegals have violated our borders illegally en masse so I have no problem with us paying for the wall in part or all of it. It's cheaper to build the wall than the increasing costs due to illegal immigration.
Here is some basic math for you. The wall is supposed to cost US taxpayers $0 because Trump promised us that Mexico would pay for the wall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1k0nYF_LQ
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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You're missing the obvious point that latimeria is making. It's better to focus money on the bigger problems rather than the smaller ones. Since Trump is going to have Mexico pay for the wall, we should spend our own money on the bigger problem of visa holders overstaying.

To quote a fool: "WTH is wrong with you that you can't seem to grasp that?"

We need to address both because they are both huge problems and there is no reason to believe we can't afford to do both. We can't afford not to! No, the fool is someone who has been told something factual over and over and they refuse to acknowledge it and keep repeating the same old nonsense over and over.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:56 PM
 
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Illegal immigration from Mexico is down, illegal immigration from Asia and Central America is up.

So say the wall stops the Mexicans and Central Americans...... whatcha gonna do about the Asians?

Hmmmm, maybe another wall up our coastlines?
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:56 PM
 
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Because numbers indicate that overstays are greater or around the same number as than illegal border crossings. For a itsy-bitsy fraction of the wall money, you could knock out about half of illegals from South America.

Last I read, border jumpers make up 60% of illegal aliens and visa over stayers only make up 40%. If the latter is increasing, so what? We should address both problems. The wall will address the former and tracking visa over stayers better will address the latter. You only want to address half of the problem? Why? The wall is only $25 billion but illegal aliens cost us over $100 billion every year. Unless you failed math you would be able to figure out that the wall is a bargain.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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Illegal immigration from Mexico is down, illegal immigration from Asia and Central America is up.

So say the wall stops the Mexicans and Central Americans...... whatcha gonna do about the Asians?

Hmmmm, maybe another wall up our coastlines?

Most Asians are visa over stayers. For that problem we need a better tracking, entry/exit system. Central Americans and Mexicans are border jumpers, thus the wall.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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Here is some basic math for you. The wall is supposed to cost US taxpayers $0 because Trump promised us that Mexico would pay for the wall.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1k0nYF_LQ

Please read the various posts in here addressing this including mine. Are you saying you missed them all?
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