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Old 01-14-2018, 02:18 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
This one is EASY!

For 20+ years now, right wing media has been telling their followers:

"America sucks and it's all your neighbors' fault!"
Wait a minute. What about the liberals who complain that the right-wingers boast that the U.S. is the best country in the world?

Can't have it both ways... do right-wingers claim the U.S. is #1 or "sucks?"
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Old 01-14-2018, 02:28 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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If you knew anything about our Constitution, you would know that our Constitution itself gave the power to the people. That's what it was about.
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State."— James Madison, Federalist 45
You need to study "progressivism;" what it is and it's origin. It was imported to the United States from Europe through the University System. It is Marxist-Socialism. Woodrow Wilson (who was no friend of the Constitution) is called "the father of American progressivism." He is the one who coined the phrase, "living document" for the Constitution.
Go back & read about the whiskey rebellion. Their complaint was the same as yours. The founders were still alive. They didn't complain about the result.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:29 AM
 
Location: The 719
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The self-loathing amongst the Republicans is painful to watch.
It's almost like they want their country to fail just so they can prove they were right about Trump all along.
The Donald is the worst thing to happen to this country since Nixon.
Patriotic Americans have no need to be ashamed of their country.
It is respected all over the world.
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
Wait a minute. What about the liberals who complain that the right-wingers boast that the U.S. is the best country in the world?

Can't have it both ways... do right-wingers claim the U.S. is #1 or "sucks?"


OMG!

A poster from near my old stomping grounds of Chatsworth who's not a bleeding liberal! Incredible! A classic car lover too!
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wait a minute. What about the liberals who complain that the right-wingers boast that the U.S. is the best country in the world?

Can't have it both ways... do right-wingers claim the U.S. is #1 or "sucks?"
Right wingers are very pessimistic doom and gloomers.

This settles the issue.

Carry on.

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Old 01-14-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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When did arepublicans set the tuition rates for colleges?

If the television you wanted to buy cost $40,000, are you going to blame your credit card company?
Well, just for starters the GOP here in Ohio and in many other states massively cut state funding of public universities in order to fund massive tax cuts aimed largely at corporations and the well to do forcing those universities to jack up tuition substantially. Forcing students to borrow more. Which of course was a secondary benefit to some of those very same corporations and well to do folks (those in the banking industry).
And a television isn't a necessity to pursue a career in a vast number of fields, and doesn't help satisfy the nation's need for a highly educated workforce.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Right wingers are very pessimistic doom and gloomers.

This settles the issue.

Carry on.

Really? It's not right-wingers who run around yelling that "global warming/climate change" is going to doom us and the earth!
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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OMG!

A poster from near my old stomping grounds of Chatsworth who's not a bleeding liberal! Incredible! A classic car lover too!
Yes, there are still some areas of California that are not liberal. Where I live, for example. Also Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, northern Granada Hills, etc.
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Old 01-14-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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I don't think Republicans hate America - and I think it's wrong for people to say that, just as it's wrong for Republicans to say that Democrats hate America. It's untrue and needlessly inflammatory.

What I think is true, however, is that Republicans value money above anything else, and if pressed, they will favor solutions that benefit themselves financially, regardless of whether it hurts other people (such as health care issues) or the country/world as a whole (such as environmental issues).
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:08 PM
 
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Given the far-right's desire for everything from "bible law"
The "far right" is 80% atheist.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:44 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Yes, there are still some areas of California that are not liberal. Where I live, for example. Also Simi Valley, Santa Clarita, northern Granada Hills, etc.
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