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Old 01-14-2018, 01:29 PM
 
Location: London
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Originally Posted by NekoLogic View Post
They dump her at night to avoid prying eyes. It was intentional. Nothing is going to change. No hospital will want a patient who can't pay the bill.

What government should do is repel the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act. That way hospitals aren't force to take in patients who can't pay the bills. The hospital doesn't need to shoulder the cost of patients who can't pay. This is partly why in other countries the cost of healthcare is cheaper. Only people who can pay get service.

Another cost reduction is the medicine. Here in United States drug companies hold a monopoly on drugs. If those drug companies were force to compete with all external companies, then the price of drugs would be reduce. In neighboring Mexico or Canada, the price of drugs is a lot cheaper for the exact same reason.

Placing no limits on the number of doctors that can graduate each year from a medical school will help reduce the salaries of doctors, which will reduce the cost of healthcare. Education will have to become cheaper and more accessible.
I agree with everything except for the first thing. That would make things like heart attacks and car crashes guaranteed death sentences, because very few people could afford complete treatment for everything upfront, much less be in any shape to take the time to make their payment. Plus, it's impossible to predict what the full costs of care would be anyway.

I'd instead suggest, for everything that doesn't necessitate immediate medical attention, checking that the patient is a citizen or lawful resident. Getting illegals out of the ER would go a long way.
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:30 PM
 
Location: London
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The embodiment of the Ayn Rand philosophy the far right is widely embracing. It's all about "me" and screw everyone else, more or less.
And yet Ayn Rand herself ended up reliant on the government dole. lol
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: London
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Your posts would make great ad material for democrat campaigns.
He is such a caricature of the "sociopathic conservative" stereotype, it honestly makes me think he's actually just a leftist trying to make all conservatives look bad.
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: London
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It's libertarian. Survival of the fittest.
That guy is no libertarian. He's totally fine with spending taxpayer money locking up people for using pot.
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: London
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The story sounds like baloney to me. Hatched by some liberal activist.
It's not. I volunteered at a hospital in high school, and saw things like this.
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Old 01-14-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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So, human life is innately worthless to you?
Human life is only worth something to a conservative if it has money.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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What ever happened to the psychiatric hospital in Las Vegas that was discharging clients with bus tickets to California without any family support? Essentially dumping the patient in another state and making him/her California's problem.
This is one update.

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Nevada has agreed to pay $400,000 to San Francisco for the costs of caring for 24 homeless, indigent former mental patients who were sent to the city with one-way bus tickets from a Nevada state psychiatric hospital.
S.F., Nevada reach tentative settlement in patient-dumping case - SFGate
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Sometimes medications are not taken for a variety of reasons :the patients can not afford them, forgot, or were nauseated. Once a mentally ill patient gets off their medication schedule, it becomes a vicious cycle for them. The more they are off meds, the less oriented, the less oriented, the less likely they will take their meds. Common problem among the mentally ill.
Psych meds have side effects that aren't always pleasant, and some that can be life threatening. Finding the correct balance and cocktail of meds may take years of experimentation, too. It's no wonder some people might be averse to taking psych meds.

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She was not compliant with her medications. Should she not be responsible for that?
Mental illness isn't black and white. It's hard to be responsible when your brain isn't working correctly.
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