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Old 01-15-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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I'm not seeing it anytime soon. A lot of us will take the light rail to work, but like the control of driving ourselves on the weekend.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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What about the fact that the likely result of self driving cars is reduction of traffic deaths by maybe 90% or more. Is that not a worthwhile development?
You are contradicting yourself, first you say it is a fact and then you say likely.
There are no numbers out there yet, simply because self-driving cars are still very rare. Should they account for 50% of all cars, we can compare their safety.

Plus, why is it that road death numbers vary so much from country to country? Even within some countries? Obviously it is mostly about how drivers drive, not about the fact that they drive.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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There are trials going on all around the world, and recent UK Report suggested one in three London car journeys could be driverless by 2025.

One in three London car journeys to be driverless by 2025, says consortium led by Addison Lee and Ford | City A.M.

Driverless Cars UK: The ultimate guide to self-driving car tests in the UK | WIRED UK

It's fairly obvious that more and more transporty is becoming autnomous, the London Docklands Railway (DLR) has been driverless since it started running back in the 1980's and new Underground trains set to come in to service will have the ability to be driverless, whilst buses and indeed taxis will also increasingly become driverless.

I have no problem with public transport becoming driverless, as long as it's regulated properly and that station and control staff are still in place.

In terms of the average family car, I think the technology might be further away due to expense if nothing else, you can easily make the money back in terms of paid public transport journeys or taxi fares but in terms of a private family vehicle such technology is probably going to be very expensive at this stage in it's development.

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Old 01-15-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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That is not true. Self driving cars are allowed on the road right now.
The question was commercially available. They are allowed for testing on the road with humans able to take over the wheel.

GM wants to test totally autonomous cars without steering wheels or pedals.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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You are contradicting yourself, first you say it is a fact and then you say likely.
There are no numbers out there yet, simply because self-driving cars are still very rare. Should they account for 50% of all cars, we can compare their safety.

Plus, why is it that road death numbers vary so much from country to country? Even within some countries? Obviously it is mostly about how drivers drive, not about the fact that they drive.
Road death numbers vary from country to country because some have more cars than others.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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Road death numbers vary from country to country because some have more cars than others.
Not really, there are statistics such as deaths per x cars, like in the second column of this table:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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there is no way it will be on the road next year. Trial runs? sure.. but actively on the road as a taxi? Nope, not for another 30 to 50 years.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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It may be 20 years before there are no longer any human driven cars on the road at all. However these advancements are happening exponentially and we are already at the cusp of this being a viable reality. GM is not going to built a fleet of self driving taxi's just to use them as experiments to be in the real world in 20 yers. The cost savings and safety improvements that self driving taxi's and tractor trailers would bring to the marketplace will win out, rather quickly IMHO.

Only thing that would slow things down is if the government does not grant its use. And I don't see that happening.
This. People don't realize what is on the near horizon, and self-driving cars are one of those things. Things are changing fast in the tech world. Look up connected cities. The Internet of Things is going to change everything, and it's coming at us fast. The majority of people have no clue.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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You are contradicting yourself, first you say it is a fact and then you say likely.
There are no numbers out there yet, simply because self-driving cars are still very rare. Should they account for 50% of all cars, we can compare their safety.
Yes there are numbers.

Even as of early 2016 Google's self driving cars were safer than human drivers. At that point they had logged over a million miles. And none of the accidents were caused by the self driving cars but by humans hitting them. If all there were was self driving cars there would be almost no accidents.

Study Says Self-Driving Cars Are Safer Than Human-Driven Vehicles: Should You Believe It? : Car Tech : Tech Times

And in 2017 they made advancements that made the google cars much safer.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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This. People don't realize what is on the near horizon, and self-driving cars are one of those things. Things are changing fast in the tech world. Look up connected cities. The Internet of Things is going to change everything, and it's coming at us fast. The majority of people have no clue.
I know. I am reading some of these replies in disbelief. I have a friend who has driven a taxi for about 10 years. A year ago he said it will never happen no one will trust a self driving taxi. Lately he has totally changed his tune and for him he is near retirement age but sees no future in the taxi business. He is hoping to survive with his job another two years.
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