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Old 01-17-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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You would have been right pre-November 2016. Then Trump's approval ratings tanked so badly that a Democrat won a Senate seat in Alabama.
LOL. As if there's any chance that result wasn't due to the stories (true or false) about Roy Moore and teenaged girls.

Why pretend it's about Trump? It just makes you look ridiculous.

 
Old 01-17-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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I see Dems holding and picking up Tx, Az, Neb, Nev.


TX and AZ, no.2 big Dem names in Tx have already declined to run against Cruz. Unless Arpaio wins in AZ, which is unlikely, McCain, Flake and Ducey will endorse the GOP candidate and that person will hold the seat for the GOP. Neb and Nev are weak but not gone by any means . But then the Dems have 10 seats to defend in Trump territory. I don't see them holding all 10.




According to a story by a NY paper after the Jones victory in AL, if all incumbent Senators currently with less than a 50% approval rating were to lose to their challenger, the new senate makeup would be 57 GOP, 43 Dem.


The Dems have a lot of seats to hold, and a lot of weak incumbents. The GOP is mainly defending GOP strongholds like TX and Miss.

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Old 01-17-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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I see Dems holding and picking up Tx, Az, Neb, Nev.
Arizona and Nevada look good.

Nebraska and Texas might be a stretch.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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Dems will re-take both the House and the Senate.

Trump will have a choice: resign or be removed from office. Either way, he's toast.
That's an outrageous suggestion. Using the impeachment process to attempt to oust a President who had not committed a "high crime" or "misdemeanor" would cause a civil war.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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That's an outrageous suggestion. Using the impeachment process to attempt to oust a President who had not committed a "high crime" or "misdemeanor" would cause a civil war.
I bet you don't even know what a high crime or misdemeanor means.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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I bet you don't even know what a high crime or misdemeanor means.


Perhaps you could detail for us what ones Trump has committed.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 02:08 PM
 
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Perhaps you could detail for us what ones Trump has committed.
Sure!

Violation of the emoluments act
Obstruction of justice
Failure to perform his duties
Poor governance

etc etc etc

Did you know high crimes and misdemeanors do not require actual crimes?

Now that you have read that, why don't you go learn what the term means, instead of asking me to hold your hand and explain it to you.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Sure!

Violation of the emoluments act
Obstruction of justice
Failure to perform his duties
Poor governance

etc etc etc

Did you know high crimes and misdemeanors do not require actual crimes?

Now that you have read that, why don't you go learn what the term means, instead of asking me to hold your hand and explain it to you.



These are merely your claims without substantiation. Before getting snarky with me, go back and detail where Trump has committed these offenses. That's why I specifically used the word "detail" in my previous post. Simply giving a list without details and substantiation doesn't cut it.


Worry about being snarky after you have actually posted some facts and substantiated them.

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Old 01-17-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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There are signs that the public has lost patience with the blunders of this administration. These signs are popping up all over the country even in the most conservative districts. A Dem just won the 10th district in WI, a seat long held by Harsdorf. These little local upsets that get very little national attention are quite telling. I wonder if the GOP is paying attention?

Democrat wins special election in northwestern Wisconsin | Politics and Elections | host.madison.com
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Losing?




Slow down...




First of all, this was a state senate seat (10th district) that is composed of two congressional districts, 3rd and 7th.


The 3rd has had the same Democrat (Ron Kind) in it since 1997.


The 7th was held by Democrat Dave Obey until he retired (not defeated) in 2011.


Only then did either seat go to a Republican (at least since 1997).


Moreover, Rep. Sean Duffy (R) was elected to Congress in 2010, a year in which Democrats couldn't win and Republicans couldn't lose.


After voting for Gore, Kerry, Obama and Obama, Trump carried the 3rd district by just 4% points over Hillary.


Similarly, the 7th voted for Gore, Kerry and Obama before handing Romney a modest 3% victory and ultimately backing Trump in 2016.




To say this was an upset victory requires a highly creative thought process.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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Slow down...

To say this was an upset victory requires a highly creative thought process.
To suggest this isn’t an upset victory in the 10th district in WI requires a complete detachment from reality. All the best.
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