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Old 01-18-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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UNRWA (refugee aid) funds are used for education, health care, and social services, so I am sure it warms your heart to hear the money is being cut.

The argument was that instead of taking refugees here, we can help them there, but I guess that has changed.
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Spare me the phony compassion...
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Phony compassion is using government dollars (read - someone else's money) for some endeavor that makes you feel good... even though it is something you would never undertake freely on your own.

True compassion and charity comes straight from your pocket.
Now if you fund these refugees directly - I will be prepared to apologize for calling your compassion, phony.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Now if you fund these refugees directly - I will be prepared to apologize for calling your compassion, phony.
Your attitude and compassion is revealed in your desire to cut funding entirely. You just want to stick it to them.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...22497602220032



Trump administration withholds funding for UN Palestinian refugee agency

The Trump administration announced Tuesday that it is withholding funding for a controversial U.N. refugee agency for Palestinians -- but has not cut funding to the organization completely.

The State Department confirmed Tuesday that the U.S. is withholding $65 million of a planned $125 million installment to the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, which provides health care, loans and other social services to Palestinian refugees in the region.

The U.S. gives approximately $364 million to UNRWA every year -- making the U.S. the biggest contributor to the organization.

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The cut comes amid a growing push by the administration to get value for money at the U.N. and also to not fund agencies and countries that do not support U.S. interests.


Probably needs to be more of a cut here...
Trump is pro Israeli, and as a NYC real estate mogul, he has very close and personal ties with Jewish people. I dknot know how folks say Trump is a racist when he personally loves Jewish people. I never understood this!

Overall. I think withholding funds for Palestinians is not the best idea. Should the UN do more? absolutely, should countries who recognize Palestine do more for Palestinians instead of showing words of support? Absolutely. Trump should be more constructive with the peoples of Israel and the Autonomous PLO on how to solve the issues in the region. With Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the defacto capital of the Israel. The two state solution is officially dead. Expect more Palestinians to migrate out as refugees when the one state solution becomes a reality.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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Actually, every "country" that works against our interests, speaks ill of us or our people should have that money train shut down.


If you think we're an evil empire, if you think we're destroying the world, if you think we're "the biggest terrorists in the world"... then Ok, fine. But you also don't need our money. Or our trade.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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Trump is pro Israeli, and as a NYC real estate mogul, he has very close and personal ties with Jewish people. I dknot know how folks say Trump is a racist when he personally loves Jewish people. I never understood this!
You don't understand it, because you do not understand Jews are not a race, they are white, like Trump. Besides, cutting aid from the Palestinians is not a pro-Israel move. Israelis are actually concerned about it.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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You don't understand it, because you do not understand Jews are not a race, they are white, like Trump.

So are Jews not a race.... or are they all (in your world) white like Trump? Your logic is contradicting itself.



Classic white supremacists are not big on Jewish people.



Jewish can mean religion (not a race), or an ethnicity (cultural Jews, who can even be atheist).






What's NOT a race is Islam or Christianity or Mormonism or Hinduism. Which is why "Trump is racist because he is restricting immigration from Muslim majority countries" falls flat for anyone with greater than an 8th grade education.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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So are Jews not a race.... or are they all (in your world) white like Trump? Your logic is contradicting itself.

Classic white supremacists are not big on Jewish people.

Jewish can mean religion (not a race), or an ethnicity (cultural Jews, who can even be atheist).

What's NOT a race is Islam or Christianity or Mormonism or Hinduism. Which is why "Trump is racist because he is restricting immigration from Muslim majority countries" falls flat for anyone with greater than an 8th grade education.
It is not logic, it is a fact. "Jews" are not a race, it is a religion. As for the rest of your post, it seems you are trying to insert something into my mouth, but they are not my words.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Your attitude and compassion is revealed in your desire to cut funding entirely. You just want to stick it to them.
I'll take that to imply that you have not directly given to the cause of the refugees.

It's always easier to appear compassionate with someone else's money. I will leave it at that...


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You don't understand it, because you do not understand Jews are not a race, they are white, like Trump. Besides, cutting aid from the Palestinians is not a pro-Israel move. Israelis are actually concerned about it.
You really need to stop... surely you understand that Jews and Muslims have the same ancestry.
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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I'll take that to imply that you have not directly given to the cause of the refugees. It's always easier to appear compassionate with someone else's money. I will leave it at that...
You can take it any way you want. You have no clue where my charity goes, and you have no clue how much I pay in taxes, so you are not even making any sense. I am sure you'd rather talk about me, or anything else either than what this thread has revealed about yourself.

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You really need to stop... surely you understand that Jews and Muslims have the same ancestry.
Sure. And? I never said Muslims are a race either. Actually, Muslims can be of any race.

Drop the straw man arguments.
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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You don't understand it, because you do not understand Jews are not a race, they are white, like Trump. Besides, cutting aid from the Palestinians is not a pro-Israel move. Israelis are actually concerned about it.
True Arabs are also white. So what's your point?
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