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Old 01-17-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Considering the military weaponry the Mexican cartels possess and their ability to construct tunnels, couldn't they blow access points through this wall or easily bypass it by burrowing? In a 6,400 mile wall all you need is a 2-foot wide hole or a 20-foot tunnel. Wouldn't the money be better spent on aerial surveillance, border agents, and cracking down on companies who hire undocumented immigrants?
In the interview with General Kelly he stated that right now they are trying to get another 700 miles of wall. He said that our President has accepted his views that the whole border does not need a wall. I said that in the beginning. If you do a Google 'Earth' flyover of the border there are many areas that have a natural physical barrier to any illegal crossing.

I liked how General Kelly stated that: If our President fails; our Country fails. He was talking about everything that our President is trying to accomplish. The General also stated that this was the hardest job he ever had and the most important job he ever had. He said he has no intention of quitting. In his interview he came over very believable and dedicated to helping/promoting America.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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No they don't.
So far, by the poll, about 80% aren’t wanting a wall along the entire border, of Trump supporters.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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In the interview with General Kelly he stated that right now they are trying to get another 700 miles of wall. He said that our President has accepted his views that the whole border does not need a wall. I said that in the beginning. If you do a Google 'Earth' flyover of the border there are many areas that have a natural physical barrier to any illegal crossing.

I liked how General Kelly stated that: If our President fails; our Country fails. He was talking about everything that our President is trying to accomplish. The General also stated that this was the hardest job he ever had and the most important job he ever had. He said he has no intention of quitting. In his interview he came over very believable and dedicated to helping/promoting America.
Well i guess a committed racist like Kelly is going to go all in now that he has a racist POTUS to manipulate ...

I would expect Kelly to hang in there right up until the Republicans turn on Trump, and then maybe even for a while longer...
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Sounds like Kelly is going to take the heat for his boss. So trump can say, well I WANTED to build the wall but my General said no.
But Trump knows more than the generals. He said so, so it must be true.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly told Democratic lawmakers Wednesday that Mexico will never pay for a wall built by the United States along the entire stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border and that some of Donald Trump’s campaign promises on immigration were “uninformed,” according to lawmakers who attended the meeting.

OP, why did you snip that last line out when you copied and pasted the quote in here?
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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According to Meriam Webster Online:
"Synonyms of uninformed:
clueless, incognizant, innocent, insensible, nescient, oblivious, unacquainted, unaware, unconscious, ignorant, unknowing, unmindful, unwitting"

Take your pick
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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At least Kelly didn't call him a dope or ****ing moron as have Cabinet members.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...aking-news-bar
Kelly calling Trump uninformed is being incredibly kind.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:17 PM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Hmmm, I kinda see where this is going.

Trump and the Trumpeters don't really care about a wall. They care about feeling they've won. And a win, in their minds, is defined as "upsetting those who aren't with them".

So - let's build a wall. It can be, oh, 100 feet long and made of stacked milk cartons. All it will take for Trump & Co. to shut up about their silly wall is for the rest of us to point at the milk carton barrier and pretend it really, really upsets us.

Upside: We can build it for about $75, plus the cost of the gold leaf lettering naming it the "Donald Trump hyperpatriotic barrier" or somesuch. Put his coat of arms on it as well.
Sounds suspiciously like a schoolyard (or even adult) bully, one who really doesn't give a **** about some supposed flaw in a person: They just care about being socially dominant just because they get a charge out of such behavior, even if demeaning that person doesn't do anything to raise their pecking order position.

And they wonder why so many people consider them crude and barbaric.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The Wall.

LOL

“The Wall” was a blustery campaign promise to rabble rouse that Trump threw out back when he never expected to actually get elected. It’s an albatross that he weighed down even more with his throwaway line about Mexico paying for it. Now he’s stuck with it and a rabid base of supporters who expect him to do something he never thought he’d need to do.

So of course he has to slowly walk it back, and/or find someone else to blame when it doesn’t happen.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:46 PM
 
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At least Kelly didn't call him a dope or ****ing moron as have Cabinet members.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...aking-news-bar
Many of Trump's campaign promises were uninformed. Many were based on premises that were ignorant or based on bad information.

It is not surprising that someone experienced in government would see this.
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