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Old 01-17-2018, 06:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Trump to Overhaul HHS Civil Rights Office to Allow Anti-LGBT Religion-Based Discrimination: REPORT - Towleroad

One of the goals for the fundamentalist Republican theocrats is to allow doctors and hospitals to refuse life-saving treatment to gay people. Looks like they are about to get it

I have no doubt if these Republicans could get away with it, homosexuality would be a capital crime and the executions of gay people would be a public spectacle, done with the singing of Baptist hymns. These theocrats that have complete control over our country right now aren't much different than ISIS. Moderator cut: trolling/flaming They hate the Constitution and the First Amendment and are looking for ways to circumvent it. If they ever do, dark times are coming for this country and anybody who isn't a right-wing Christian fundamentalist.

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Old 01-17-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Trump to Overhaul HHS Civil Rights Office to Allow Anti-LGBT Religion-Based Discrimination: REPORT - Towleroad

I have no doubt if these Republicans could get away with it, homosexuality would be a capital crime and the executions of gay people would be a public spectacle, done with the singing of Baptist hymns. These theocrats that have complete control over our country right now aren't much different than ISIS. They call them the Christian Taliban for a reason. They hate the Constitution and the First Amendment and are looking for ways to circumvent it. If they ever do, dark times are coming for this country and anybody who isn't a right-wing Christian fundamentalist.
From your cited article: " establishing a new division of the HHS civil rights office that would conduct compliance reviews, audits and other enforcement actions to ensure that health care providers are allowing workers to opt out of procedures when they have religious or moral objections. The new division would be a third, co-equal branch with the office’s existing two divisions that focus on federal civil rights laws and the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.


The office would also conduct outreach and technical support to help others who are seeking to strengthen protections for workers with religious and moral objections to certain procedures."


So, exactly what is wrong with this if I may ask. Last time I checked, we all have civil rights and we are all protected against discrimination. Discrimination is not limited to only those groups you feel should be protected. Everyone deserves protection, including those who do not want to be forced to do things they feel are morally wrong or against their religious beliefs. There is nothing here which will stop LGBT citizens from receiving the same services as everyone else. This action simply ensures that citizens who are working in the healthcare industry have a voice and a choice, instead of being forced to perform procedures which they feel are wrong or against their beliefs. These people deserve the same protection that every other group receives.


First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting thefree exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Exactly how does the First Amendment tie into your argument here Bawac? Because I just don't see where it applies to this. The government is not recognizing or establishing a religion, or in any way limiting any of the other rights described in the amendment above. All this move does is establish protection for a minority in this country, the Christian health care worker. Please remember, everyone in this country enjoys civil rights, and everyone in this country deserves protection from persecution and protection of their religious freedom. Not just certain groups of people you feel deserve protection.


And besides, it's just an article. More than likely, this is just a big bunch of nothing.
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Old 01-17-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Another inflammatory and self-serving thread title. Big surprise.

Anyway, if the Little Sisters of the Poor are happy, so am I.
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:02 PM
 
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Fake News again... liberals never learn...
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Fake News again... liberals never learn...
How is it fake news?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...th-care-289542
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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Trump to Overhaul HHS Civil Rights Office to Allow Anti-LGBT Religion-Based Discrimination: REPORT - Towleroad

One of the goals for the fundamentalist Republican theocrats is to allow doctors and hospitals to refuse life-saving treatment to gay people. Looks like they are about to get it

I have no doubt if these Republicans could get away with it, homosexuality would be a capital crime and the executions of gay people would be a public spectacle, done with the singing of Baptist hymns. These theocrats that have complete control over our country right now aren't much different than ISIS. They call them the Christian Taliban for a reason. They hate the Constitution and the First Amendment and are looking for ways to circumvent it. If they ever do, dark times are coming for this country and anybody who isn't a right-wing Christian fundamentalist.
“Aahhhhhh!!!!!! Oh the horror! Oh the horror! I have no idea what the actual changes might be, but it’s the apocalypse! Oh the horror!!!”
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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How would such a thing even be put into practice?
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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How would such a thing even be put into practice?
Exactly what thing are you talking about?
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:31 PM
 
Location: London
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Exactly what thing are you talking about?
I want to get a picture of the horror scenario people like the OP are imagining. Because I think people are getting worked up over nothing.
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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At least this link says what it is.

Essentially, a healthcare worker can decline to participate in performing abortions and sex change operations.

What is the problem there?
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