*****Government Shutdown ***** (Congress, CNN, highway, Obama)

[LordSquidworth]

Originally Posted by Spikett

I'm a moderate (so, no real party to back - I guess I would be a moderate Dem if push came to shove) and I think the Dems should give in on the DACA thing that is apparently the sticking issue on keeping the government going for the next few months. But I'm so sick of the partisanship that has been going on for what seems like forever now...

Normally I'd say both for this pole, but I'm thinking I'm actually going to go with just the GOP this time.

normally id be critical of this move. However the GOP has been using it for years, dems might as well use it this time. If they cave then deep partisanship continues.

Originally Posted by trlhiker

I would have voted Trump but that wasn't a choice so I gave it to the repubs.

Early 2017 totally. Today though, they're the same.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/19/gove...sses-plan.html

CNBC.....even disagrees with you....

Every bill in the senate can pass with 51 votes. Did all 51 republicans vote yes?

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

How many votes are needed for final passage of a bill in the senate?

How many senate republicans are in their caucus?

Why can’t republicans govern?

51 for a regular bill, however, this is not a regular bill it's a SPENDING bill....

How many votes does it take to pass a spending bill?

Everyone one including CNN and CNBC disagrees with you.

Why can you not be honest?<<<< Rhetorical BTW.....we know why...

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by natalie469

Yes, they will because they are considered citizens now.

In who's delusional mind?

No they are not!
What an *****!

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Every bill in the senate can pass with 51 votes. Did all 51 republicans vote yes?

This is a spending bill.....

Stop being dishonest....

I've given you 2 extremely left leaning new outlets that states 60 votes, tell us why they are wrong?

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by ambient

Compromise usually requires two sides, so likely both to blame.

Republicans should give Democrats DACA. Democrats should give Republicans the wall or something like that.

I'm all for new illegal aliens being kept out, but don't kick out those who came here as small kids and are de facto Americans by now.

We have compromised the Constitution enough.
I'll pass.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by chucksnee

51 for a regular bill, however, this is not a regular bill it's a SPENDING bill....

How many votes does it take to pass a spending bill?

Everyone one including CNN and CNBC disagrees with you.

Why can you not be honest?<<<< Rhetorical BTW.....we know why...

60 for cloture.

51 for final passage.

Did all 51 republicans vote yes?

[moneill]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Um... Dems voted AGAINST that in favor of foreign law-violators.

Own it.

Why would any decent human being - American or otherwise -- attach CHIP as part of deal making situation.

That is heartless and cruel.

They did it so folks like you would blame the Democrats.

They are all guilty, we are all guilty of allowing this kind of governing of PEOPLE.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

60 for cloture.

51 for final passage.

Did all 51 republicans vote yes?

Tell us why CNN and CNBC are wrong?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by moneill

Why would any decent human being - American or otherwise -- attach CHIP as part of deal making situation.

In a Fed Gov FUNDING Bill? Yes.