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View Poll Results: Who is at fault for the shutdown?
House/Senate Majority Republicans 138 37.50%
Democrats 171 46.47%
Both 59 16.03%
Voters: 368. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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Are you sure that they put them ahead of the military. How about this:




Sounds like the Republicans don't give a hoot about the military.
No, it’s the Democrats who feel illegals are more important than the military.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Are you sure that they put them ahead of the military. How about this:




Sounds like the Republicans don't give a hoot about the military.
Actually there has been a Pay Our Military Act before Congress (both political parties) that would have addressed exactly this issue, since April (Republicans put this one forth) and NEITHER PARTY has voted on it. So the blame is pretty equally distributed.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...enate-bill/871

I don't know the specifics of any of these bills but since both parties have a propensity for adding totally unrelated stuff to every single bill, I'm pretty sure that's why none of these bills that are supposedly to help our military ever get passed.

Look, neither party REALLY cares about our military - that should be obvious. It's absolutely disgusting.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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I agree. There is a reason to be upset with both sides. Yet they still get paid. Every time they pull this crap, the American people should have a vote to shut down their benefits and checks. I bet they would come to agreements really quick.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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I agree. There is a reason to be upset with both sides. Yet they still get paid. Every time they pull this crap, the American people should have a vote to shut down their benefits and checks. I bet they would come to agreements really quick.
We put them in power and tied our own hands.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Because it just kicks the can down the road for a few weeks until Chuck and Nancy throw another Trumpertantrum, attaching an amendment demanding that illegals be made legal to the budget (which it has nothing to do with) and the same thing would happen and Air Force would just cancel a game then. You guys made your choice, now own it.
I've made no choice, I'm not in government.

There was a bipartisan deal, and Trump torpedoed it. Why?

Around 90% of Americans support DACA:
Poll: Nearly 9 in 10 want DACA recipients to stay in US | TheHill

This isn't a partisan issue. Or at least, it shouldn't be. Why can't our Congress see what Americans want on this and make it happen? This should have been addressed already so that we could have moved onto other issues as a nation.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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What a joke, Schumer said that this was done without Dem input. Hey Schumer, Obamacare comes to mind.... A massive failure of legislation that hurts people pushed through without one Republican vote. And didn't 4-5 Dems vote for this.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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No, it’s the Democrats who feel illegals are more important than the military.
So you don't care that McConnell and other GOP members made the decision not to vote on an emergency act last night that would fund the military. A Democrat put that forward to vote on last night. They didn't think that was important.

But fear not, no one is putting illegals in front of the military. They all know the military will be paid. They always are and anyone who gets in the way of that is committing political suicide.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:35 AM
 
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DACA doesn't expire till March. Why was it even tied to this current situation? Oh, that's right - it's precisely because BOTH PARTIES consistently try to add partisan stuff to every single bill (stuff that's usually not even related to whatever is being supposedly voted on) and that's why they can't ever seem to agree on what most of their constituents actually DO agree on.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Too bad, so sad. A baseball game really? Someone has too much time on their hands....
They're playing Baseball in Colorado Springs on January 20th? (In the Snow?).

The lack of common sense of the left (and the fact that all of them were probably in the Drama club and picked last for Dodgeball)......is truly revealing itself in this thread.

Dems - Weenies, Welfare Queens and Illegals first. Men & Women who serve our Country....last.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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FACT: More Dem senators voted for the CR than Pub senators voted against it.

Check your scorecard.

It's OK to look at reality instead of swallowing what rwnj talking heads feed you.

laughable argument at best

SCHUMMER SHUTDOWN It has a ring to it. It will stick.
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