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They are considered to be out of status once they turn 18 1/2 so, yes, at that point they are considered---to use your phrasing---"criminals". They had an opportunity to change their status but so very, very few even made the effort.
You just might want to check on that... unlawful presence in the US is not a crime and it never has been. It is a civil tort. So no, they are not 'criminals'. They are young people who did not come here of their own volition, they don't have criminal records and are working or going to school and trying to become part of the only Nation they ever knew, the United States.
You obviously don't know anything about Colorado. There is no snow on the ground and it was almost 70 here yesterday. There might be snow tomorrow but baseball season could easily start this time of year.
For some reason you guys are holding people accountable for not citing the correct sport. This is one of those "who cares" moments.
Whatever you say Sparky. Baseball season (in College everywhere) doesn't start for a month. The first Game in Colorado Springs for the AF won't be played until they're in March.
It's merely a "who cares" moment for you. But there are quite a few normal, former HS American athletes who:
- don't believe that illegal aliens should come before men and women serving in our armed services.
- knows that if one says or types BBall.....that a person who shoots his mouth off spewing about Football is probably a nerd and definitely an idiot.
- know that Baseball Games in College (or HS) are NOT being played on 1/20 (in FL or Colorado).
Interestingly, 20 years ago there were legitimate reasons why citizens who worked and who were raising families would consider the Democrats as a viable party. But now there are none.
The Dems are truly the party of misfits. They're starting to resemble 1972 Dems. Their only hope is to bring in 10-20 million illegals to offset the millions of middle of the road independents who are truly disgusted by their actions & policies and will never vote Dem again.
And you think there is something wrong with putting Americans first. Why should DACAs be put ahead of Americans? It's your beloved democrats who are putting DACAs ahead of their constituents.
Can't we do two things at once? CHIP should have been funded months ago the only reason I can think of that it hasn't been is because McConnell thought he could blackmail dems by making them 'choose' between DACA and CHIP and it blew up in his face which is exactly what he deserved.
As adults, DACAs don't need "protecting". They just need to suck it up and deal with it by returning to their own countries. If they are angry at the predicament that they've been put in, then they need to lay the blame where it belongs --- squarely on their parents.
BTW, all of them who are demanding "amnesty" have no moral compass. If they had a moral compass, they would have worked on changing their immigration status instead of applying for DACA which was never intended to be a permanent solution.
We have many suffering Americans---many who are homeless, many who are either underemployed or unemployed. How can anyone put DACAs ahead of suffering Americans? How, in any way shape or for,m is putting the DACAs first "moral and humanitarian"?
It's really not as neat and tidy as you keep positing. If it were, I'd probably agree with you. There are 3 paths to citizenship. All three ways have numerical limitations. For example, the U.S. Department of State says only 25,620 people are legally allowed to immigrate from Mexico to the U.S. each year, but there are 1.3 million Mexicans on the wait list.
“For people who have no one with legal status in the U.S., there is no way to immigrate for the vast majority of people in the world,” Keller said.
From Catalina Morales, during an interview (she's a Dreamer). She's asked if people ask her often about becoming a citizen:
“Almost always, but there’s no way for me to become a U.S. citizen,” Morales said.
Almost all Dreamers do not have a close family member who is U.S. citizen or who has permanent legal status, making it almost impossible to obtain a green card.
“A lot of people have this misunderstanding that Dreamers were given citizenship or they’re shirking their responsibilities by not becoming citizens,” Keller said. “They can’t do it. You have to follow the existing law.”
In some rare cases, an American spouse can sponsor a Dreamer’s application for a green card, but the applicant would still have to leave the U.S. for a period of time.
Much of the Federal govt would keep running under a "shutdown"
Apparently a "shutdown" isn't really a shutdown. Various officials have said that the "critical functions" of the Fed govt would keep going, and the rest would be restored as soon as the agreements are worked out.
In the past, Federal workers who got furloughed during those shutdowns, were given full back pay once the "shutdowns" ended. In other words, they didn't suffer financially at all. In fact, they got full paid vacations during the entire time of the "shutdown".
I do wonder one thing. If the functions that are going away, are not "critical", then what is the Fed govt doing running those functions at all? How about just maintaining this "shutdown" that isn't a shutdown, indefinitely? Lay off the workers who weren't critical, give them separation packages and bonuses, and help them get real jobs instead, where they have to do actual productive work for a change.
Devolve the rest to the states, who can run them if they think they are important enough.
Much of the Federal Government Would Keep Running in a Shutdown
by Louise Radnofsky
Updated Jan. 19, 2018 1:59 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON—If the federal government shuts down at midnight Friday,much of its work will continue, according to carefully laid plans that havebecome a familiar part of agency life amid regular political brinkmanship.
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Social-security payments will be deposited as 53,000 workers for thatagency stay on the job, because the payments don’t rely on an annualappropriation and by “necessary implication,” government lawyers have decided,the Social Security Administration should make sure they go on.
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Why isn't Trump a choice in the poll? Congress gave him a deal. He wanted a deal. He was ok with the deal. And then the hardliners in is cabal talked him out of it. All this confusion. It is pretty simple to see who is responsible. Trump and his appalling 'leadership' is. Once again, the emperor has no clothes--he is a terrible leader with no principles or policies of his own.
"...Trump set the current crisis in motion last September when he revoked Obama’s executive order that protected DREAMERs from deportation, but he offered no guidance about what he wanted to happen next, other than for Congress to do ... something...
...The lack of clarity emboldened immigration hardliners in the GOP caucus while simultaneously raising hopes for a deal among immigration reformers. But Trump’s intervening behavior wound up salting the earth by leaving everyone feeling that he might screw them over at any moment. Consequently, nobody is quite sure exactly who is shutting down the government or what it is the White House is trying to achieve by rejecting a bipartisan proposal that would avert a shutdown..."
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Why should DACAs be put ahead of Americans? It's your beloved democrats who are putting DACAs ahead of their constituents.
Much of the Federal govt would keep running under a "shutdown"
