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I used to be a Democratic voter......those days are gone now. There is no DACA Bill for them to even vote on, but they obstruct passing a Budget. I have a son in the military who now won't be paid. Are you kidding me? It takes 60 votes to pass a Funding Bill through the Senate; Democrats must step up. Resist is not the answer. Our security is at stake. Speaking of DACA/Dreamers, it is my understanding that there are @ 800,000 DACA people but if Dreamers are included the number is closer to 4,000,00. You can't vote on a Bill that doesn't yet exist; it's time to recognise that the Budget must be taken care of now(before midnight tonight); DACA has until March 5th.
No problem pissing away 2t in December, can't make the minimum payment a month later. Blames the minority because they spent 8 years obstructing and haven't realized they govern now. Sounds about right.
If Republicans want to do something about illegals they would make e verify mandatory and the fines hefty.
^^^^THIS^^^^ <bold> I would apply this to ether side btw...
I hope that today, Jan. 19th, for the sake of the country, that the Democrats in the Senate temporarily allow Trump and the Republicans to carry-out their act of extortion and contribute their votes to pass a stop-gap budget bill.
Then, over the next 6 weeks, they should hold the feet of Trump and the Republicans to the fire, if they fail to cooperate in passing an acceptable extension of the DACA Bill. If they refuse to do that, they will expose themselves to be the frauds that they are.
A vast majority of the people of this country, including republicans, are in favor of extending the provisions of DACA. The Republicans will pay a steep price in the 2018 elections, if they block this bill. By holding up such legislation for ransom and then pulling another bait-and-switch trick, what credibility they might still have, would be gone.
Why should the Republicans go along with any DACA bill? It was unconstitutionaly implemented by Obama.
There are no accurate polls denoting that most people want to vote against their own interest via DACA. No, it's the Democrats that will pay for putting illegal aliens above our own citizen's needs and for shutting down our government.
Are Democrats trying to obstruct hearings and investigations into Russian meddling in our elections?
Did Democrats push a tax bill that favors foreign investors, that runs up our deficit and national debt?
if you read moosehuggers posts they are anti everything. I find it hard to believe Moosehugger is a real poster, he/she may well be real but the posts don't ring true to me.
Provide a link that shows that all those American construction workers got their jobs back from illegal aliens and other blue-collared Americans for a fair rate of pay again. Show that most illegals left those jobs. An American working two part time jobs at a lower wage doesn't count.
What? What are you babbling about? You falsely accuse me of fabricating the numbers from the Bureau of Labor statistics and now you present some half-baked theory and demand I debunk it? Get real. If you want to peddle your nonsense, you can present it in readable form and find your own links to support it. Its not my job to do your homework for you. And until you do, its just your speculation and nothing more.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
Why should the Republicans go along with any DACA bill? It was unconstitutionaly implemented by Obama.
We are talking about passing a law to address DACA. The dubious claim that it was unconstitutional is moot in the context of that discussion. Good try at deflection, though.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
There are no accurate polls denoting that most people want to vote against their own interest via DACA.
Aaaaand for my final act, I present the tried and true "all polls that disagree with me are lies" argument. Its a personal favorite, I must admit.
DACA are just the registered Dreamers.
Yes, there are 800,000 DACA, but they estimate there is close to 4 million Dreamers.
There is where they get us, like they did in 1986 and the said 400,000 and over 4 million came forward.
and the next wave starts!!!
NO DACA period!
I was promised in 1986 it was going to be a one time and one time only deal. To get me to accept it.
Pick a side, Dems. What's it going to be? Who do you champion? US Citizens? Or illegal aliens?
Tick tock...
I'm not sure. Conservatives usually pick unborn fetuses over U.S. citizens, so I'm not really sure how sacrosanct citizenship is here. Is the correct answer: Fetuses > U.S. Citizens > illegal aliens?
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