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Old 05-02-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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17% of US energy comes from renewable sources, including hydro power.

In Texas, 18% comes from solar and wind alone.

Took me all of 43 seconds to find out.
He wasn't talking about total energy make up. Carve out hydro, and the numbers are very small in the U.S. READ THE POST.

For every unit of wind, and solar you have to build a unit of reliable power for when the sun doesn't shine, and the wind doesn't blow. These two "renewables" are a feel good fraud.
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Old 05-02-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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He wasn't talking about total energy make up. Carve out hydro, and the numbers are very small in the U.S. READ THE POST.

For every unit of wind, and solar you have to build a unit of reliable power for when the sun doesn't shine, and the wind doesn't blow. These two "renewables" are a feel good fraud.
Technology in these areas march forward everyday. I remember the internet being pretty slow on 9.6 dial up.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Marquette, Mich
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Yet it is OK to demand extreme, forced financial redistribution for a few decades of weather. Most scientist are liberal/progressive. They have a philosophical reason to support man made climate change, as well as a job security motivation. I'm not saying they are more greedy than anyone else, but they like to have a job, especially in their field.
I can't even.

Deny all you like. It is happening. That is all.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I can't even.

Deny all you like. It is happening. That is all.
So is it warming or cooling? Why did they have to change the name to man made climate change from global warming? The weather, and climate always changes, and has drastically well before Man's industrialization. To require draconian, financial hardships for many for an unproven theory for a few decades of WEATHER changes is absolutely ridiculous. I can't even.

It is purely a government money, and power grab. Communism didn't work, so now they are trying MMCC. It is a dying, or dead issue with most people. It isn't even in the top twenty of concerns for most today.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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So is it warming or cooling? Why did they have to change the name to man made climate change from global warming? The weather, and climate always changes, and has drastically well before Man's industrialization. To require draconian, financial hardships for many for an unproven theory for a few decades of WEATHER changes is absolutely ridiculous. I can't even.

It is purely a government money, and power grab. Communism didn't work, so now they are trying MMCC. It is a dying, or dead issue with most people. It isn't even in the top twenty of concerns for most today.
LMAO - its not that, like tobacco companies before them, carbon-polluters are working to preserve their high-profit industries by any means possible including the funding of outcome-based research, but that thousands of academics and scientists are conspiring with research centers, institutions of higher learning, and the majority of the world's Governments to peddle a lie designed to undermine the world's hydrocarbon industry.

This is the sort of stupidity that low-information people believe.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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This is the sort of stupidity that low-information people believe.
Which is why the come to political forums to "learn" about it rather than science resources.

If they were actually interested in a non biased, non pre-conceived outcome view, they wouldn't be in a political forum peddling it and sucking it down. It can be fun to peek in and chuckle at though.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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LMAO - its not that, like tobacco companies before them, carbon-polluters are working to preserve their high-profit industries by any means possible including the funding of outcome-based research, but that thousands of academics and scientists are conspiring with research centers, institutions of higher learning, and the majority of the world's Governments to peddle a lie designed to undermine the world's hydrocarbon industry.

This is the sort of stupidity that low-information people believe.
Yes, but that stupidity enables you to drive your cars, heat, and power your home, and everything else you won't give up. This is the sort of HYPOCRCIY the Left thrives upon.

Fossil fuels power the world, and there is nothing on the horizon the can, nor even should replace them. Honesty, intelligence, and pragmatism seems to be lacking from the anti fossil fuel, useful idiot minions.
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Yes, but that stupidity enables you to drive your cars, heat, and power your home, and everything else you won't give up. This is the sort of HYPOCRCIY the Left thrives upon.

Fossil fuels power the world, and there is nothing on the horizon the can, nor even should replace them. Honesty, intelligence, and pragmatism seems to be lacking from the anti fossil fuel, useful idiot minions.
If something is cleaner and better, why shouldn't it replace them?
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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If something is cleaner and better, why shouldn't it replace them?
Because of the financial impact it will have on low income people.
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Old 05-02-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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Because of the financial impact it will have on low income people.
That makes no sense. We have power plants with wind energy now. There is no "up charge" for that.
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