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Old 01-18-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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The House Intel Committee voted today to release a FISA abuse report to the entire House of Representatives.

All the democrats on the committee voted against the release of the report.

Why would the democrats vote against releasing a report that provides evidence of wide spread abuse of the FISA system?

Well because all of the abuse of the FISA system was by the Obama administration.

I told everyone that we pasted beyond the tipping point, and the Russian collusion story would be proven false. This was the first step in that process.


At the committee's meeting Thursday morning, Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., offered a motion to allow all House members to review a brief report prepared by the Republican majority summarizing the panel's investigation into what GOP members call "FISA abuse." (That is a reference to the secret court set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.) The motion passed the committee on a party-line vote.


Byron York: House committee takes step toward making Trump dossier findings public
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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They want to show the public the spread sheets of all communications, Susan Rice had the NSA compile on all Trump team members and who they communicated with.
Peter King said, "it reads like a daily log of all Trump campaign communications"
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I don't think so. There have been unsubstantiated claims of abuse from the executive branch and the aligned members of the GOP, however Congress did assert support for FISA. Leads one to conclude that a lot of the smoke, well- is smoke.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...lation-n837231

But it would be GOOD to know if there are proven violations of privacy especially under FISA rules, but seeing as though FISA passed FISA the House and will also likely get approved in the Senate- this 'report' seems nothing more than an attempt to appease Fox 'Opinion' which, by the way, drove Trump into the chaotic frenzy over the matter- all unsubstantiated.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Threerun View Post
I don't think so. There have been unsubstantiated claims of abuse from the executive branch and the aligned members of the GOP, however Congress did assert support for FISA. Leads one to conclude that a lot of the smoke, well- is smoke.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...lation-n837231

But it would be GOOD to know if there are proven violations of privacy especially under FISA rules, but seeing as though FISA passed FISA the House and will also not Senate- this 'report' seems nothing more than an attempt to appease Fox 'Opinion' which, by the way, drove Trump into the chaotic frenzy over the matter- all unsubstantiated.
There's just one problem with what you said.

The FISA court has already released a report documenting widespread FISA abuse by the Obama administration, including abuse during the election.

There is already verifiable proof of widespread FISA abuse by the Obama administration, this report outlines additional evidence of more FISA abuse by the Obama administration.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3495...ies#from_embed
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:26 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't think so. There have been unsubstantiated claims of abuse from the executive branch and the aligned members of the GOP, however Congress did assert support for FISA. Leads one to conclude that a lot of the smoke, well- is smoke.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...lation-n837231

But it would be GOOD to know if there are proven violations of privacy especially under FISA rules, but seeing as though FISA passed FISA the House and will also likely get approved in the Senate- this 'report' seems nothing more than an attempt to appease Fox 'Opinion' which, by the way, drove Trump into the chaotic frenzy over the matter- all unsubstantiated.

Next time, don't play us as stupid...



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.841c2875781e

Obama Repeatedly Violated Americans’ 4th Amendment Rights Using Intel Agencies | www.independentsentinel.com

It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me | TheHill


It’s difficult not to see patterns in the government’s behavior, unless you’re wearing blinders.
  • The intelligence community secretly expanded its authority in 2011 so it can monitor innocent U.S. citizens like you and me for doing nothing more than mentioning a target’s name a single time.
  • In January 2016, a top secret inspector general report found the NSA violated the very laws designed to prevent abuse.
  • In 2016, Obama officials searched through intelligence on U.S. citizens a record 30,000 times, up from 9,500 in 2013.
  • Two weeks before the election, at a secret hearing before the FISA court overseeing government surveillance, NSA officials confessed they’d violated privacy safeguards “with much greater frequency†than they’d admitted. The judge accused them of “institutional lack of candor†and said, “this is a very serious Fourth Amendment issue.â€
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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Still flogging this dead horse???

I guess with the whole "Fusion GPS " lie falling flat has left you guys scratching around...
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Obama on the way to prison?
I bet he'll receive even more fanfare than Charles Manson.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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There's just one problem with what you said.

The FISA court has already released a report documenting widespread FISA abuse by the Obama administration, including abuse during the election.

There is already verifiable proof of widespread FISA abuse by the Obama administration, this report outlines additional evidence of more FISA abuse by the Obama administration.
well post the proof, instead just claiming it. go on. Do it. cause nobody ever seems to have the proof....

Just post the PROOF of ABUSE. not claims, not alex, go ahead and post the findings, i mean you guys keep banging one about it, so you must have it?
or maybe all you have is "fox and farts" etc claiming there is "proof".


either you have proof of widespread FISA abuse by the Obama or you don't.


claims, stories, accusations, opinions are not proof...
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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well post the proof, instead just claiming it. go on. Do it. cause nobody ever seems to have the proof....

Just post the PROOF of ABUSE. not claims, not alex, go ahead and post the findings, i mean you guys keep banging one about it, so you must have it?
or maybe all you have is "fox and farts" etc claiming there is "proof".


either you have proof of widespread FISA abuse by the Obama or you don't.


claims, stories, accusations, opinions are not proof...
Here you go, straight from the FISA court.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3495...ies#from_embed
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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I'm not the least bit surprised that FISA got abused by those in power. It just happened to be the Dems but it could have easily been the Republicans.

Think back..what was the original intent of FISA...to capture terrorists and keep America safe.

And everyone should have been outraged when it came out that Samantha Power had access to this information.
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