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true enough, a republican anti trumper first started the effort to discredit trump. but it was ENDED when it becamse obvious that trump was going to win the nomination. it was at that point that the clinton campaign picked up the effort and pushed it forward. so why didnt she use it in the campaign? perhaps because she knew it would backfire on her and show her for what she really is, a scheming liar who would do anything to become president, even to the point of using outright false information?
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Does anyone honestly believe that this shouldn't be investigated?
Regardless of who paid what, wouldn't we want to find out what is true?
If we have a Russian agent in the WH, wouldn't we want to know?
If he's pure as the driven snow, wouldn't we want his name cleared?
it should be investigated, but it needs to be investigated by people WITHOUT an agenda. and by the way it HAS been investigated since july 2016, with no results. its time to end the investigation and stop wasting money.
Does anyone honestly believe that this shouldn't be investigated?
Regardless of who paid what, wouldn't we want to find out what is true?
If we have a Russian agent in the WH, wouldn't we want to know?
If he's pure as the driven snow, wouldn't we want his name cleared?
What basis is there for thinking Trump is a "Russian Agent"? This is just liberal nuttery.
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Who said WikiLeaks is not legitimate? It's a Russian run outfit that posted a bunch of stolen emails. None amounted to anything but the usual back and forth. There was no smoking gun or at least none that anyone could find. Trump carried on like the were the Pentagon Papers.
Where did you get your information that the DNC is a criminal enterprise? Any proof or is this the usual Alex Jones BS?
Trump has openly admitted to passing classified information to Russians. You fine with this?
Trump has openly admitted to firing the FBI director because he didn't want him investigating Russian interference in our elections. You fine with this?
This is all lies or supposition. There is no evidence that wikileaks is a "russian run outfit".
There is no evidence that Trump shared information he was not authorized to share. As CinC he has the leeway to share information with his foreign counterparts in joint military operations. That's part of his area of authority.
Trump admitted no such thing. He said he fired him because he can't be trusted, and mishandled his work responsibilities AND that the mess he was making with his witchhunt was harmful to the adminstration (as it was a distraction). These reasons are all mutually compatible, and can all simultaneously apply.
Chuck knows this already, he/she just does not care about the facts. They want to smear poop all over everything, everyone and everywhere. Because when everyone is covered in stink, Trump won't stand out so much.
That is all this is. Propaganda a smear campaign to delegitimize any finding that might result in Trump being impeached. If Trump can throw so much poop that some folk beyond his hardcore base just throw up their hands and decide "everyone is dirty so who cares" then he might be able to cling on to power a little longer..
I have not seen this in my lifetime. frankly it is disgusting. We are seeing Republicans pooping on everything this nation stands for , just to protect a gold plated thief. Each month they attack our nations institutions with a hail storm of lies. unmasking, uranium, fusion gps, simpson transcripts, FBI emails, Fisa, Nunes memo,
it is a never ending parade of lies. As the lies implode they run away only to return a month or two later pretending it is a whole new thing. This Nunes memo is really just another bit of bs and it is the exact same bs about fisa and fusion we heard last month or the month before... just now Nunes is waving it around pretending it is double top secret...
Haha....the poop been slung, but not by the right...the left is throwing around terms such as collusion, oh we got ya now, I HAVE TRUMPS TAXES...oh wait....not really....the dossier is real, we promise.
Again, you throw impeachment around with zero to impeach...just another smear tactic that low information people can cling onto...impeach impeach impeach.....
Please the left used lies for the 8 years of obama (que the trumps president now, you cannot talk about our savior obama)
Oh, and lets not forget the collusion collusion collusion.....
What basis is there for thinking Trump is a "Russian Agent"? This is just liberal nuttery.
This is all lies or supposition. There is no evidence that wikileaks is a "russian run outfit".
There is no evidence that Trump shared information he was not authorized to share. As CinC he has the leeway to share information with his foreign counterparts in joint military operations. That's part of his area of authority.
Trump admitted no such thing. He said he fired him because he can't be trusted, and mishandled his work responsibilities AND that the mess he was making with his witchhunt was harmful to the adminstration (as it was a distraction). These reasons are all mutually compatible, and can all simultaneously apply.
My, are you behind the times.
WikiLeaks' physical DNS server location and IP address is on Russian web host.
U.S. Intelligence identified the intermediaries Russia used to deliver stolen emails to WikiLeaks over a year ago.
He certainly could have coordinated with U.S. and Israel IC to declassify the information. But he didn't. He handed over highly classified information without any regard for the safety of the sources. Just blurted it out.
Trump's contention that he has a perfect right to pass on any classified information he wants to the Russians because he's POTUS is just plain stupid.
You can bet other nations' Intel services are more cautious about what they share with the US and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if our IC was more cautious with what they share with Trump.
You said NOBODY suggested collusion, I provided a link that proves you wrong...
Please, tell us all in detail how did I proven your point that CNN was NOT suggesting collusion?
the link you provided is explaining how it is NOT collusion. You guys Love saying "collusion not proven" because you know there is no such charge.
but you also know that money laundering , obstruction and conspiracy are likely going to be a huge problem when Mueller releases his findings.
Frankly you guys on the right will do anything say anything, smear anyone just to avoid the truth.
YOU voted for a known thief, you may not have known Trump was a foreign agent when you voted for him ,but you knew he was not a good nor honest guy...
cut your losses quick because in all honesty i would rather we did not take the house or senate in 2018, i would rather you guys run it all and take the blame for everything you do over that time...
the link you provided is explaining how it is NOT collusion. You guys Love saying "collusion not proven" because you know there is no such charge.
but you also know that money laundering , obstruction and conspiracy are likely going to be a huge problem when Mueller releases his findings.
Frankly you guys on the right will do anything say anything, smear anyone just to avoid the truth.
YOU voted for a known thief, you may not have known Trump was a foreign agent when you voted for him ,but you knew he was not a good nor honest guy...
cut your losses quick because in all honesty i would rather we did not take the house or senate in 2018, i would rather you guys run it all and take the blame for everything you do over that time...
Holy crap folks, you said nobody is talking about collusion but fox....
Lets look again at what you said:
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Originally Posted by evilcart cool you are of course aware nobody on the left nor anywhere outside of trumpland is suggesting "collusion".
you do get that, don't you Neko? surely you know that by now because we have reminded you guys about 100 times. NOBODY is saying COLLUSION except of course Trump and FOX...
...about the Trump dossier that was used in at least one of the FISA applications. The judge was not informed it was paid for the HRC campaign:
"Nunes' memo concludes that the FISA judge who signed off on surveillance warrants for members of Trump's team during the campaign was not given full information about the dossier that was used in at least one application, according to sources familiar with the document. One source said the judge was not told that the document was paid for by the Democratic sources. CNN first reported last April that the dossier was used as part of the justification with the secret FISA court to monitor the communications of former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page. The New York Times first reported on the charges outlined in Nunes' memo." How the House Intelligence Committee can make Nunes' FISA memo public - CNNPolitics
They are going to have to drop all charges on Flynn, Manafort and others, if this is true.
If that happens, liberals will flip ****
Haha....the poop been slung, but not by the right...the left is throwing around terms such as collusion, oh we got ya now, I HAVE TRUMPS TAXES...oh wait....not really....the dossier is real, we promise.
Again, you throw impeachment around with zero to impeach...just another smear tactic that low information people can cling onto...impeach impeach impeach.....
Please the left used lies for the 8 years of obama (que the trumps president now, you cannot talk about our savior obama)
Oh, and lets not forget the collusion collusion collusion.....
i sense desperation.
here try one of these, i know your Trumpland buddies use them all the time when they are "stuck". pick one, throw it around for a while and see if you get give it some life.
They are going to have to drop all charges on Flynn, Manafort and others, if this is true.
If that happens, liberals will flip ****
No, that is not how it works.
I have suggested before and i will likely have to suggest it again.
Bentbow, you have a lot of time on your hands, drop over to your local court. Sit in (you are allowed) watch how it works. judges don't drop cases like they do on TV
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