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Old 02-13-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Unwittingly you provide another example of a Socialist construct. Confiscate all guns then place untenable restrictions on further gun ownership.

The other is the government issued healthcare ( bread and circuses) scheme that gives the masses a comfort in exchange for their liberty.

Being unarmed there is no reversal possible.

 
Old 02-13-2018, 12:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I haven't told you how to run your country at any point in this thread. Try reading my posts again.



No, I cannot understand fully the obsession some Americans have towards guns, but I can try.
And it's not that I don't understand guns or have no familiarity with guns. We have mandatory conscription in Finland and I have spent a year in the military, therefore shooting all kinds of guns.

Vice versa, we have the right to affordable/free universal healthcare in our constitution, and many Americans have trouble understand that again.
Most of us that are "obsessed" as you put it have been around guns all of our life. We were born on ranches and farms or small towns. Actually hunting for food is normal to us. Using firearms to protect livestock is normal to us. Wearing a hand gun on our hip or a rifle in the truck are normal to us. As people started to move to large urban centers since farming become more difficult to make a living at we simply brought that culture with us.

You see, the gun culture is so much more than a simple stereotype like hippy or redneck. It is far too branched to give it one label. I hunt and don't really like shooting but I have friends that like to shoot and don't hunt at all. Just for hunting alone I have small arms, shotguns and long rifles as we hunt everything from birds to deer to predators like coyotes and there isn't a one gun solution. Heck, you can break it down to just hunting birds. I wouldn't shoot the same gun/ammo for doves as I would for ducks, turkeys or pheasants. Even is California we hunt year round as there is always something to hunt. I have a different gun to shoot rabbits than I do elk or deer. I have different guns for different terrain. I have some made for taking long shoot at medium game and some made for shooting large game in brush at close range.

Then there are those that live in these same large urban areas that simply want a firearm for protection. In the amount of time it takes for you to call police you can be dead. I carry a gun for times when I'm simply hiking as there are so many Mt Lions here. In Colorado I carried because of the number of bears, and now wolves and Mt Lions. Out in the Country it's Sheriff territory and it can take them hours to respond to a call. I'm not waiting hours for something that can be over in minutes.
 
Old 02-14-2018, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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The UK is NOT a democracy. You must have failed government class.

Funniest post in a long while!
Have you ever considered a career as a comedian?
 
Old 02-14-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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A good read :
https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/...ol-laws-17984/


Venezuela bans private gun ownership - BBC News
Okay, so in 2012 Venezuela imposed a ban on private firearms ownership. Fast forward to now. Do you think if the citizens had retained the ability to take over their government it would have ended up the mess it is now ? Not to mention, it did nothing but escalate violence. These poor people are eating whatever they can catch...dogs, cats ....


https://panampost.com/sabrina-martin...troys-economy/
 
Old 02-14-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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Funniest post in a long while!
Have you ever considered a career as a comedian?
UK is a constitutional monarchy.
 
Old 02-14-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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3 weeks later, nobody can detail for me the process of making guns go away. Some vague references to other countries that are not governed by a 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendment, but not much else.

Still hoping one of the "make teh gunz go awayz" folks can explain to me the process, start to finish, that actually accomplishes that goal, in the US.
 
Old 02-14-2018, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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So.....what's your point? Are you emigrating?

I NEVER realized how thin skinned Americans are. Ever notice when ANYONE- even lifelong American citizens, has the smallest criticism of America, they either go off and say" mind your own country's business" or " when are you leaving", but they have NO problem going around criticizing other countries.
Dish but can't take.
 
Old 02-14-2018, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Most of us that are "obsessed" as you put it have been around guns all of our life. We were born on ranches and farms or small towns. Actually hunting for food is normal to us. Using firearms to protect livestock is normal to us. Wearing a hand gun on our hip or a rifle in the truck are normal to us. As people started to move to large urban centers since farming become more difficult to make a living at we simply brought that culture with us.

You see, the gun culture is so much more than a simple stereotype like hippy or redneck. It is far too branched to give it one label. I hunt and don't really like shooting but I have friends that like to shoot and don't hunt at all. Just for hunting alone I have small arms, shotguns and long rifles as we hunt everything from birds to deer to predators like coyotes and there isn't a one gun solution. Heck, you can break it down to just hunting birds. I wouldn't shoot the same gun/ammo for doves as I would for ducks, turkeys or pheasants. Even is California we hunt year round as there is always something to hunt. I have a different gun to shoot rabbits than I do elk or deer. I have different guns for different terrain. I have some made for taking long shoot at medium game and some made for shooting large game in brush at close range.

Then there are those that live in these same large urban areas that simply want a firearm for protection. In the amount of time it takes for you to call police you can be dead. I carry a gun for times when I'm simply hiking as there are so many Mt Lions here. In Colorado I carried because of the number of bears, and now wolves and Mt Lions. Out in the Country it's Sheriff territory and it can take them hours to respond to a call. I'm not waiting hours for something that can be over in minutes.
So you're all afraid 24/7? Got it. That's ALL you had to say, mate. I understand completely: the biggest, baddest badazzes that ever walked the planet( modern American) are afraid of animals and them there colored folk. Guess there IS a price to pay for being selfish bigots who destroy their environment and screw over those people they feel are beneath them, all in the name of selfish greed.

Aw just kidding mates, I'm sure you're all VERY brave patriots who are the ONLY heroes standing between ordinary citizens and complete takeover by a tyrannical government, as well as total annihilation by mountain lions and grizzly bears; though not sure why you need tons of state of the art weaponry and military sizes firepower to take down the occasional mountain lion. We have way more dangerous critters in woop woop here and we survive fine without arming ourselves like Seal Team 6 just to go hiking. But then we're not members of the 101st Chairborne Division!

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Old 02-14-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Foreigners keep telling us we should live like they do when our cultures are completely different.
And those foreigners are? Merkel, Macron, Putin?
 
Old 02-14-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Another school shooting ongoing in Ft Lauderdale. At least 20 injured.
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