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Old 02-04-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
You defended same sex marriage? Same sex marriage does not depend on 'protected class status'.
I defended Religion, which is protected by both the First Amendment and the Federal Civil Rights Act. And it is in fact true that the US's major religions are on record with their official position regarding same sex marriage. Here it is, again:

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-con...ligionsSSM.png
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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Religion is STILL an extremely powerful lobby in certain parts of the country, espec the southern states. Religion was even more supported back in the 1960s when it was used to defend racial segregation just like it defends gay discrimination now.
There is a huge distinction between one's race and one's behavior. Race is what you are born with; the homosexual lifestyle is a chosen course for one's life.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Either way, everyone is still obsessed with us. This thread is even more proof
Yea, Like the freak show at the carnival. Get the neck tattoos and you'll be set for life.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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People these days are too busy trying to make a living in this miserable country to bother with protesting for a small minority of people (like gays) who obviously are not suffering the same degree of indignities that blacks endured in the 1960s and before.
Let's not go down competing for the Oppression Olympics, please.

Sorry, but discrimination is discrimination. Everyone deserves to be treated with fairness and equality no matter who they are.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Americans are less comfortable with LGBTQ people now than they were

The homosexual lifestyle is just inherently abnormal. In the beginning, God made them male and female to come together as one. Male on male and female on female is just abhorrent; so is men who think they're women and women who think they're men.
Did you know Earth is 4.5 Billions of years old with 1,000+ homosexual species? Did you also know slavery, male dominance of women, and hanging and enslaving of non-Christian men are illegal now? Do you want to go back to that again? Do you want to make others submit to you as spoken in the Bible? Wounder why the Bible speaks of control so positively and some in the free world embrace it so much.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There is a huge distinction between one's race and one's behavior. Race is what you are born with; the homosexual lifestyle is a chosen course for one's life.
That boils down to whether one thinks that it’s an “orientation†or a “choiceâ€. In any case, we live in a republic, not a theocracy.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Asians also take education VERY seriously. And think hard work is a virtue.

But I'm sure that has nothing to do with their success.

It's amazing to me how many will choose to argue for victimhood instead of saying: Well, yeah, maybe a bit of education, responsibility and hard work could improve these people's lives. They'd rather complain and make excuses.
You know what - stop using Asian Americans as a stalking horse to disparage other communities.

And actually, it became politically convenient to use the model minority identity back in the 1950s and 1960s

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b81f18d06be2
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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Let's not go down competing for the Oppression Olympics, please.

Sorry, but discrimination is discrimination. Everyone deserves to be treated with fairness and equality no matter who they are.
That includes Religious people, which is why there's a clash. Religion is protected by both the First Amendment and by the Federal Civil Rights Act. Trampling those Rights is a losing strategy.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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I defended Religion, which is protected by both the First Amendment and the Federal Civil Rights Act. And it is in fact true that the US's major religions are on record with their official position regarding same sex marriage. Here it is, again:

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-con...ligionsSSM.png
In 2015 SCOTUS reiterated the long held ruling that marriage is a fundamental human right. In Obergefell v. Hodges, it reaffirmed this right for all.

Its likely most famous holding re: this fundamental right was in Loving v. Virginia when it struck down state antimiscegenation laws that prohibited interracial marriage.

The fundamental right to marry had protected felons currently serving time in prison & fathers who were not financially supporting their existing children. Since 2015, the same fundamental human right to marry is recognized for same sex couples.

It's a human right.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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In 2015 SCOTUS reiterated the long held ruling that marriage is a fundamental human right. In Obergefell v. Hodges, it reaffirmed this right for all.
The CO baker didn't stop the gay couple from getting married, did he? No. He just declined to participate in providing goods/services for their same sex wedding.

You have no complaint.
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