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Old 02-04-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Forgot to bold one word.
You realize that separation refers to the dissolution of political bands with others, no?

Read it again...

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


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Old 02-04-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Except... the declaration of independence has no legal value to the country... it was a letter sent for the justification of leaving british rule, not justification on how the US should develop
First Amendment: Free Exercise. Clearly important enough to include it in the very First Amendment in the US Constitution.
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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You realize that separation refers to the dissolution of political bands with others, no?

Read it again...

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


Please see Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause

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I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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First Amendment: Free Exercise. Clearly important enough to include it in the very First Amendment in the US Constitution.
and yet, christians seem hell bent on preventing muslims from building their churches (ugh, whatever the term is)
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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and yet, christians seem hell bent on preventing muslims from building their churches (ugh, whatever the term is)
Mosque.

And it isn't just Christians who are against other religions. They all are, in some way. For that matter, atheists - who have no dog in the fight, really - are about as anti-religion as anyone I've ever met.
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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Please see Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause



https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
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I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof


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Old 02-04-2018, 02:08 PM
 
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and yet, christians seem hell bent on preventing muslims from building their churches (ugh, whatever the term is)
There are no Mosques in the US? Since when?
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof


You only read a few parts and not the whole thing. Good try..
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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Mosque.

And it isn't just Christians who are against other religions. They all are, in some way. For that matter, atheists - who have no dog in the fight, really - are about as anti-religion as anyone I've ever met.
Very true. Their intolerance and bigotry is on display in city-data threads all the time.
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Old 02-04-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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In 2015 SCOTUS reiterated the long held ruling that marriage is a fundamental human right. In Obergefell v. Hodges, it reaffirmed this right for all.

Its likely most famous holding re: this fundamental right was in Loving v. Virginia when it struck down state antimiscegenation laws that prohibited interracial marriage.

The fundamental right to marry had protected felons currently serving time in prison & fathers who were not financially supporting their existing children. Since 2015, the same fundamental human right to marry is recognized for same sex couples.

It's a human right.
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The CO baker didn't stop the gay couple from getting married, did he? No. He just declined to participate in providing goods/services for their same sex wedding.

You have no complaint.
Back to your old (& lame) tricks by not quoting the full response in your reply?

Same sex marriage couples are not stopping bakers from baking cakes.

Although denying a person's or a couple's humanity does tend to raise some red flags.

The case in Oregon for one example.

Here's another:

Judge sides with Orlando bakery owners who refused to put anti-gay slogan on cake

A mother-and-daughter bakery did not discriminate against a potential customer when the owners refused to make a cake with an anti-gay slogan, an administrative law judge decided this week.

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Administrative Law Judge J. Bruce Culpepper's recommended order in favor of Cut the Cake comes nearly two years after the Central Florida bakery was targeted by Arizona evangelist Joshua Feuerstein for refusing to make a cake with an anti-gay marriage message.

In the administrative challenge, potential customer Robert Mannarino accused Cut the Cake —- co-owned by Sharon Haller and her daughter, Cyndol Knarr —- of religious discrimination when the women refused to make a cake with the words "Homosexuality is an abomination unto the Lord." ...
Judge sides with Orlando bakery owners who refused to put anti-gay slogan on cake

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orl...media=AMP+HTML
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