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Old 01-28-2018, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Yes, they care about bringing in a few more million illegals any way possible. No surprise there.
The wall is not the solution and even trumpers know that. It's just a political promise they got conned into. Now neither they nor their Leader can back down from it, no matter how stupid an idea it is.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:16 AM
 
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Maybe we should remove their ability to think and speak, who do they think they are, having opinions and all !!
No but just like when the criminal is brought before the court and asked if they have anything to say at sentencing, if the open their mouth and spew about how they don't think what they did was a crime, we will give it very little weight and it might even work against the criminal. The criminal has the right to speak but shouldn't unless it is to apologize.

Generally no one cares what a criminal thinks about the fairness or legality of the crime they committed.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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The wall is not the solution and even trumpers know that. It's just a political promise they got conned into. Now neither they nor their Leader can back down from it, no matter how stupid an idea it is.
Of course that's your opinion. IMO, having a solid wall on some parts of the border is part of the solution along with everything else such as high tech surveillance, more border agents, E-Verify and other things. It's part of the big picture.
When a liberal President is elected again, he won't be able to tear the wall down. It's there permanently.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:17 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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How full our the places were unwanted kids are taking care off , waiting and DREAMING of the day a new parent will show up to give them a forever home!

A homeless VETERAN waiting and DREAMING of a better future.

All our kids that are DREAMERS of a better life than they may get right now!

DREAMERS are now called illegals who need a pass to ski the line! Legal aliens are DREAMERS too and wait in line for a long time!
They can dream in their Country and can do one of two things: fight and improve the quality of life where they live, or get in line and wait until a decision is made whether they are worthy of being an American.
Simple.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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So, let me get this straight. Just because they are not citizens yet, they are not entitled to an opinion , is that right ? No one said they "had a say in it" just that they voiced their OPINIONS on it.

Maybe we should remove their ability to think and speak, who do they think they are, having opinions and all !!
They should have no rights or opinions in the United States. If that’s what they are after, they can go HOME. Do you think you would have rights and opinions if you went to Mexico illegally and demanded them!
HA! You would never be heard from again. So take your bleeding heart, sob story sentiments and try them in another country.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Of course that's your opinion. IMO, having a solid wall on some parts of the border is part of the solution along with everything else such as high tech surveillance, more border agents, E-Verify and other things. It's part of the big picture.
When a liberal President is elected again, he won't be able to tear the wall down. It's there permanently.
Think again. There would be a lot of support for tearing down a monument to stupidity and racism. I believe museums are where pieces of the Berlin Wall now reside.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:37 AM
 
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Think again. There would be a lot of support for tearing down a monument to stupidity and racism. I believe museums are where pieces of the Berlin Wall now reside.
The Berlin wall was there to keep citizens in. This wall is to keep foreign invaders out. See how simple that is? Of course, your pro illegal alien agenda doesn't fly. Once built, it won't be taken down and that's your worse nightmare and why liberals are against it. It's permanent. The racist card has been so overplayed by you and other libs that it's worthless and now everyone knows it. Your argument is stale and useless to say the least.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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The Berlin wall was there to keep citizens in. This wall is to keep foreign invaders out. See how simple that is? Of course, your pro illegal alien agenda doesn't fly. Once built, it won't be taken down and that's your worse nightmare and why liberals are against it. It's permanent. The racist card has been so overplayed by you and other libs that it's worthless and now everyone knows it. Your argument is stale and useless to say the least.
Invaders?? People seeking a better life who FOR DECADES were ENCOURAGED by both Dem and Rep administrations to come here to help greedy corporations get cheap labor.

The US Government was complicit in this migration. Again, both parties for DECADES.

It's a complicated issue that demands a complex solution. Only simpletons say, Build a Wall, Throw Everyone Out.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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They should have no rights or opinions in the United States. If that’s what they are after, they can go HOME. Do you think you would have rights and opinions if you went to Mexico illegally and demanded them!
HA! You would never be heard from again. So take your bleeding heart, sob story sentiments and try them in another country.
I live in Central Mexico and have owned a home here since 2008.

There is an estimated quarter of a million illegal US expats in Mexico. Came in on tourist visas and never left.

I know many in our little village....and so do the locals.

But they are not hunted down by the MXN authorities. Now, if they were to do something illegal, yes, they are subject to expulsion. But overall it's alive and let live situation. Most of the illegal US expats I know are elderly, have no family in the US and have not been to the US in 20+ years. Instead of being cast as criminals by MXNs, they are pitied and allowed to stay.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:53 AM
 
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It's a complicated issue that demands a complex solution. Only simpletons say, Build a Wall, Throw Everyone Out.
No it isn't. Really it isn't. You enter the country illegally at your own risk. There is no "they encouraged me" defense. FBI agents routinely pretend to be criminals and arguably entrap people.. but that doesn't get them off. Ultimately your decisions are your own no matter what "encouragement" you receive. DACA's it seem get special treatment under the law.
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