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Old 02-03-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
The memo is not evidence, it is a summarization of evidence collected by the House intel committee on FISA abuse.

The Republicans do not need to litigate this issue in public with the democrats, they only need to make people aware of what happened. The actual evidence collected will be used to justify the appointment of a special counsel.
Well said.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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That didnt take long. Every one of these traitors should be locked up and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Using surveillance and the intelligence agencies against a political campaign is beyond vile and real third world type of stuff. It goes far beyond these people named and everyone knows it. We need more fighters like this in the congress

“The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence memorandum on the FBI abuse of FISA warrants and targeting a sitting President is not just evidence of incompetence but clear and convincing evidence of treason….”

“I will be leading a letter to the Attorney General seeking criminal prosecution against these traitors to our nation.”

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) said that that he will seek the criminal prosecution of FBI and DOJ officials for the “full throated adoption of this illegal misconduct and abuse of FISA by James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein” who Gosar called “traitors to our nation.”

Former FBI Director James Comey was entrusted with one of the most powerful positions in the world. Sadly, he intentionally abused his power in an effort to destroy Donald Trump’s presidency. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and sent to prison for his crimes.

No one is above the law. No one.”

https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/959508977095602176
I was talking about this over the early summer, months before any of this was in the spotlight. It was fishy then, now the wrapper of this stinky mess is being slowly peeled away and we are seeing why it stinks so bad. Its worse than we had thought.

Hint...it goes to the top, and if you think it doesn't you're naive.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:23 PM
 
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Trump is flogging the memo to his base like it's the Pentagon Papers. Perhaps he was hoping it would get him out of being questioned by Mueller. That doesn't appears to be the case.

Democrats are disgusted over this latest attempt to badmouth and undermine the FBI and DOJ.

Some Republicans are given it the side eye as well. Not nearly enough.

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/959197429156466689
Obviously you don't understand it either. You're just putting the liberal CNN spin on it that tries to jusitfy using illegally obtained warrants to spy on American citizens and undermine an election.


It's absolutely pathetic that the FBI and DOJ got corrupted by Obama, Clinton, and the left, and the media just goes along with it to further the leftist liberal agenda.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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The FBI was also surveilling and investigating the Clinton campaign. People seem to have conveniently forgotten that. Remember how Comey came out with new information on her campaign right before the election?

If this was all a "secret state" plot by the FBI and the DOJ to get Clinton elected, they sure did a terrible job of it.
No wonder the Leftist have no clue about what is going on. Here's a HINT.

[b]A New York Police Department search Warrant on the Weiner/Abedin residence does NOT equate to a Title I FISA Warrant[b] for an American citizen that is supposed to be a National Security risk and a SPY. That Title I Warrant is for the subject and everyone he might come into contact with.

That is the Warrant that the FBI & DOJ got against Carter Page 4 separate times, 3 of those times after Donald Trump was sworn in as President. Nobody was ever "surveiling Hillary Clinton" and to our knowledge there was never a FISA Warrant asked for, or granted to "surveil" her or everyone she came into contact with.

Comey "came out with new information" on Clinton due to the New York Police Search Warrant - Andy McCabe hid that information for 3 weeks before Comey wrote his letter.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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From what I understand, parts of the dossier have been verified. The FISA warrant was issued prior to the dossier. The dossier wasn't the only evidence the judge used to renew the warrant. Carter Page has been on the FBI's radar for years.
Christopher Steele wrote his first memo of the Dirty Dossier (according to Simpson Testimony) on June 20, 2016 - he turned over his completed Dirty Dossier on July 4-5, 2016 to the FBI. The FISA Warrant was issued on October 26, 2016 and then reissued 3 more times in 90 day periods.

My calendar has always indicated that June, July come before October.
This is all a matter of publicly available data and I've already posted the links to it in this thread.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Why Trump continues to act so guilty is just strange.

Trump has been repeatedly assured that he is not under investigation.

Russian interference in the election is under investigation. If he had nothing to do with that, then he has nothing to worry about.
I so enjoy your posts, they wreak of sheer panic.. Your heroes are going down and you are finally admitting it to yourself. that is a good first step..
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Because those are just a televised clown show.
More importantly, that is not how our system is supposed to work.

Under the U.S. Constitution, criminal cases are decided by the Judicial branch, not the Legislative branch (Congress).

Simply put: under our three branch Government system, Congress is responsible for making the laws, the Executive Branch is responsible for enforcing our laws, and the Judicial Branch hears and makes decisions on cases involving federal laws.

So, let's let the system do its job.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:41 PM
 
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Trump is flogging the memo to his base like it's the Pentagon Papers. Perhaps he was hoping it would get him out of being questioned by Mueller. That doesn't appears to be the case.

Democrats are disgusted over this latest attempt to badmouth and undermine the FBI and DOJ.

Some Republicans are given it the side eye as well. Not nearly enough.

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/959197429156466689

"weasels and liars never hold the field" - Is this the title of Comey's autobiography or an explaination of why he got fired?
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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Christopher Steele wrote his first memo of the Dirty Dossier (according to Simpson Testimony) on June 20, 2016 - he turned over his completed Dirty Dossier on July 4-5, 2016 to the FBI. The FISA Warrant was issued on October 26, 2016 and then reissued 3 more times in 90 day periods.

My calendar has always indicated that June, July come before October.
This is all a matter of publicly available data and I've already posted the links to it in this thread.
Again, you are assuming that one piece of faulty information negates all other pieces of information gathered in an investigation.

At this point, none of us know all of the evidence that has been gathered shows.

The evidence may very well prove, once and for all, that President Trump is innocent of all wrong doing.

And, it is also entirely possible that no additional indictments will be issued affecting any other of his associates.

I personally think that there is a good chance that the investigation will clear President Trump of all doing.

The only way to get to that conclusion, however, is to let the investigation conclude.

Then, should any additional indictments be issued, the judicial system can wrangle over which evidence is admissible and which isn't and decide who is guilty and who isn't.

But, if the investigation is not allowed to conclude or continues to be diverted by partisan politics, we will never get to that point and the President will never be able to give his full attention to other things.

So, let's let the investigation conclude and, should there be any further indictments, the courts can decide on the validity of evidence presented and its admissibility at that point.

Congress is not a court of law, and neither is social media.

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Old 02-03-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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"weasels and liars never hold the field" - Is this the title of Comey's autobiography or an explaination of why he got fired?
Actually, Comey got fired because Rosenstein advised Comey to fire him. So, if you dislike Comey, you must not have any problems with Rosenstein, right?
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