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I saw this on local at noon. They were scanning a tag. Was the guy wronged because his color? How many colors shopped that day?
No they weren't. I posted the link to the video above. They were looking up the item numbers of a clothing tag - NOT a price tag - and hand keying them into the register. There was no price tag hanging off the clothing, just the normal clothing tag that is sewn in.
Wearing clothing from a store while going to shop at that same store is low class? And I suppose racial profiling is done by some very fine people?
1. If the guy had the tag on his jacket, your point about racial profiling is moot. If there was no tag, then you (or he as the case may be) would have to prove that the store clerks would not stop to check a White person wearing store clothing out, without paying, while the same clothing is featured in the store. The guy makes a dubious assertion that other people in the store wore that seasons styles in the store, because he can't prove it.
If he had the tag on (which he very likely did), the people defending him here are essentially defending the ability to put clothes on, in store, and walk out with them without paying. Using the "racist" accusation if someone stops them from stealing. This particular case, if the tag was on, is unusual because no one generally walks around with the price tag on their clothing. The store clerks would not be blamed for stopping him as a likely thief in that instance.
2. If you people want to get into discussions of "class", without revving up into a pointless hysterical frenzy like Catgirl did, then we can do that.
First, I'll give you a reference. My reference is Paul Fussell's "Class: A Guide through the American Status System". Just so that you know that I'm not going on my opinion, although I do hold that this particular behavior is rather intuitive as low class, but rather am appealing to the person who wrote the defining book on the American Class system. I've read the book twice because Fussell is a talented writer. I recommend it.
First, doing anything to draw negative attention / suspicion of theft to yourself is low class. Period. That's before we get into other issues, but this is probably the most salient point about the class implications of wearing an item into a busy store where it is still on sale. I feel that this should be intuitive for everyone. Moreover, making a low-wage salesperson's life unduly difficult because you are forcing them to make a theft assessment of your activities because of what you are wearing is low class.
The rest of the issues discussed are a distant second to the above, but you asked for it. These are the issues that are likely to send people who somehow believe that there isn't a class system in America into a rage:
Without getting into any potential class issues that would arise from the Old Navy brand and clothing quality, I'll merely address clothing quantity. A particular higher class signal is to signal that you own a higher quantity of clothing. Upper class people frequently display this quantity through layering.
Wearing an item to he store where it was recently bought gives the opposite signal of the layering concept. It shows that your wardrobe is so meager that you have little other option but to wear something to a store that other people are looking at and buying with you standing there. As I said, it makes you look like a store mannequin.
There are your class answers, like them or not. Rage away.
First, doing anything to draw negative attention / suspicion of theft to yourself is low class. Period. That's before we get into other issues, but this is probably the most salient point about the class implications of wearing an item into a busy store where it is still on sale. I feel that this should be intuitive for everyone. Moreover, making a low-wage salesperson's life unduly difficult because you are forcing them to make a theft assessment of your activities because of what you are wearing is low class.
You have no standing to be preaching class to anyone.
You have no standing to be preaching class to anyone.
There's that class rage.
Sick burn bro.
It's a shame that what I "preached" as being low class is unassailable as truth. And it really isn't that hard to not do. It's basic low-drama behavior. Throw on an old hoody, instead of the new Old Navy jacket, when going to the Old Navy store.
1. If the guy had the tag on his jacket, your point about racial profiling is moot. If there was no tag, then you (or he as the case may be) would have to prove that the store clerks would not stop to check a White person wearing store clothing out, without paying, while the same clothing is featured in the store. The guy makes a dubious assertion that other people in the store wore that seasons styles in the store, because he can't prove it.
If he had the tag on (which he very likely did), the people defending him here are essentially defending the ability to put clothes on, in store, and walk out with them without paying. Using the "racist" accusation if someone stops them from stealing. This particular case, if the tag was on, is unusual because no one generally walks around with the price tag on their clothing. The store clerks would not be blamed for stopping him as a likely thief in that instance.
2. If you people want to get into discussions of "class", without revving up into a pointless hysterical frenzy like Catgirl did, then we can do that.
First, I'll give you a reference. My reference is Paul Fussell's "Class: A Guide through the American Status System". Just so that you know that I'm not going on my opinion, although I do hold that this particular behavior is rather intuitive as low class, but rather am appealing to the person who wrote the defining book on the American Class system. I've read the book twice because Fussell is a talented writer. I recommend it.
First, doing anything to draw negative attention / suspicion of theft to yourself is low class. Period. That's before we get into other issues, but this is probably the most salient point about the class implications of wearing an item into a busy store where it is still on sale. I feel that this should be intuitive for everyone. Moreover, making a low-wage salesperson's life unduly difficult because you are forcing them to make a theft assessment of your activities because of what you are wearing is low class.
The rest of the issues discussed are a distant second to the above, but you asked for it. These are the issues that are likely to send people who somehow believe that there isn't a class system in America into a rage:
Without getting into any potential class issues that would arise from the Old Navy brand and clothing quality, I'll merely address clothing quantity. A particular higher class signal is to signal that you own a higher quantity of clothing. Upper class people frequently display this quantity through layering.
Wearing an item to he store where it was recently bought gives the opposite signal of the layering concept. It shows that your wardrobe is so meager that you have little other option but to wear something to a store that other people are looking at and buying with you standing there. As I said, it makes you look like a store mannequin.
There are your class answers, like them or not. Rage away.
Too bad you failed your own exam.
1. There is video evidence that there was no price tag. The clerks were getting numbers of a regular, sewn in clothing tag and hand keying them into the register. No scanning. So no, he "very likely" did not have a tag. That could have been cleared up easily by a little reading comprehension of the now multiple times that's been posted in this thread.
And the person involved stated that white customers next to him in the store also wearing Old Navy clothing were not asked to let the store staff examine that clothing.
2. I have no idea who "you people" are - you quoted me, but I don't know who I'm supposed to represent. In any case, your tortured argument that it's somehow inappropriate to wear a line of mass marketed clothing back to the same store where it was purchased is inane.
3. It's racist to suggest that shopping while black is doing something to draw attention to yourself. But that's exactly what you are doing.
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