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Old 02-04-2018, 11:42 PM
 
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They basically only occur in places with lots of guns. They occur in the U.S., which is drowning in guns. They don't occur in countries with reasonable gun controls.
Oh REALLY? What about this?

https://www.voanews.com/a/mass-shoot...d/4053904.html
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Yeah ... but what about dog parks and shoe stores? Huh? Huh? What about them places? How come nobody never shoots up no shoe stores? They afraid of being attacked by ladies with nine-inch-heels?
Terror at the dog park.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/d...-area-dog-park
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Old 02-05-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Yeah, ok ... but ... burnt casserole ... I mean that would flip anybody's switch. You gotta find us a different example to make your point.

Burnt casserole qualifies for “justifiable homicide”, don't it?

5 slaughtered in shoe store massacre. Another gun free zone.


5 Are Killed by Gunman in Bronx Shoe Store - NYTimes.com
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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Time for law enforcement to have access to full body armor and military grade weapons, tactical gear; tired of hearing about all these cowardice cop killers having the advantage due to nanny ass policies.
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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They basically only occur in places with lots of guns. They occur in the U.S., which is drowning in guns. They don't occur in countries with reasonable gun controls.
ridiculous
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Yes, really.

I don't understand your question. No one claimed that gun control results in 0 murders ever. The point is that gun control makes places 100x safer, as we see in Canada, Australia, Europe, and other places with sane gun laws.
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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CO the "wild west?" LOL. OK. And truth be known, towns like Dodge City, Tombstone and all the others associated with High Noon didn't allow folks to carry guns in town. Grrr, I'm sick to death of that "wild west" analogy. It's inaccurate and plumb silly.
My point is to the OP - the murder rate in places like MA is 1/2 or 1/3 or even 1/4 of what it is in some states and regions.

CO may not be the home of cowboys any longer, but the NRA sure enjoyed having their convention there. It's not in any way a "strict gun laws" type of place.

It's the OP who is FOS......who either can't count or isn't good at maps.

Even most of the urban violence with guns (in strict cities) is with guns procured from nearby "friendly" gun areas.
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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They basically only occur in places with lots of guns. They occur in the U.S., which is drowning in guns. They don't occur in countries with reasonable gun controls.
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Yes, really.

I don't understand your question. No one claimed that gun control results in 0 murders ever. The point is that gun control makes places 100x safer, as we see in Canada, Australia, Europe, and other places with sane gun laws.
What you said in your first statement (the bolded part) was mass shootings don't happen in countries with reasonable gun controls. USMC1984 pointed out that your statement was false.

Very simply, gun controls don't stop shootings. If gun control laws can't stop shootings in countries with "reasonable gun controls" (whatever that is) and fairly few firearms in circulation, do you really think that gun control laws are going to stop shootings in a country with 300,000,000+ firearms in circulation?

Gun control is not the answer. There are quite a few things that would actually alleviate some of the violence (of which shootings are just a tiny fraction), but every time someone suggests something like "lock anyone who commits a crime with a firearm away until they are so old and palsied that they can't hold a gun, much less aim one" the left loses their minds because "that's not fair" or "it's societies fault that they act that way." Because targeting an inanimate object is, for some reason, going to stop people from being violent.

I could write a detailed list of methods that would actually help to stop at least some of the violence - including firearms violence - and somewhere on these forums, I have. However, the left and the anti-gun crowd aren't interested in actually stopping the violence so those ideas are dismissed. So, when the left is willing to discuss extremely harsh penalties for certain crimes rather than the catch and release program we have now, and willing to actually end the idiotic War on Drugs that has caused more violence in America than the NRA, we can discuss why shootings happen in America. Hint: it isn't because of guns.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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Time for law enforcement to have access to full body armor and military grade weapons, tactical gear; tired of hearing about all these cowardice cop killers having the advantage due to nanny ass policies.
Most already do.
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: PSL
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What you said in your first statement (the bolded part) was mass shootings don't happen in countries with reasonable gun controls. USMC1984 pointed out that your statement was false.

Very simply, gun controls don't stop shootings. If gun control laws can't stop shootings in countries with "reasonable gun controls" (whatever that is) and fairly few firearms in circulation, do you really think that gun control laws are going to stop shootings in a country with 300,000,000+ firearms in circulation?

Gun control is not the answer. There are quite a few things that would actually alleviate some of the violence (of which shootings are just a tiny fraction), but every time someone suggests something like "lock anyone who commits a crime with a firearm away until they are so old and palsied that they can't hold a gun, much less aim one" the left loses their minds because "that's not fair" or "it's societies fault that they act that way." Because targeting an inanimate object is, for some reason, going to stop people from being violent.

I could write a detailed list of methods that would actually help to stop at least some of the violence - including firearms violence - and somewhere on these forums, I have. However, the left and the anti-gun crowd aren't interested in actually stopping the violence so those ideas are dismissed. So, when the left is willing to discuss extremely harsh penalties for certain crimes rather than the catch and release program we have now, and willing to actually end the idiotic War on Drugs that has caused more violence in America than the NRA, we can discuss why shootings happen in America. Hint: it isn't because of guns.
Yes, you have so have I and others. Every time we've pointed back to the individual the left wails about that individual as being some sort of victim of society/circumstance and it was the gun that caused it.

The amusing part of it is, regardless of what the case was, what race religion political affiliation etc, it falls square on the gun. The inanimate object that can not think or act on its own.

You bring up where the bulk of murders occur there's the excuse well states don't have walls and check points to keep guns out.
But it's racist and xenophobic to want a southern border wall.

You can't make this stuff up. The mental gymnastics is amusing with the feeble left.

Here, right here, this example, the woman in the article needed more than an escort to her car... she needed an escort to the insane asylum.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...service-weapon
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a customer seated nearby was “scared for her life” because “police are shooting people” and demanded “to be escorted to her vehicle out of fear of being shot.”
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