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This has to be signed off by Obama, the AG and the FBI.
All are guilty and should be arrested.
My prediction is we will also find out that Obama ordered the spying to continue even after Trump became President which is a treasonous act by Obama.
FISA court is a foreign intel court, not to be used for US citizens, therefore they broke yet another law.
How is that constitutional lawyer thingy working now???
"This has to be signed off by Obama, the AG and the FBI."
Do have something to verify this?
" FISA warrants
Each application for one of these surveillance warrants (called a FISA warrant) is made before an individual judge of the court. The court may allow third parties to submit briefs as amici curiae. When the U.S. Attorney General determines that an emergency exists, the Attorney General may authorize the emergency employment of electronic surveillance before obtaining the necessary authorization from the FISC"
Definitely fake news but man they fall so easily. Gateway Pundit.
This "news" would lead you to believe that the FISA warrant actually requested for Carter Page was for Trump and requested by Obama. We know today that it was for Carter Page and requested by the DOJ based on 50 pages of classified intelligence they had on him. The first request for FISA was apparently very broad (we don't know why it was broad) and the FISC team asked them to revise the request to narrow the request. We can only guess and say did the request want to monitor more than Carter Page? There are probably more suspicious actors listed in that 50 page classified document than Carter Page, but maybe only Carter Page had enough compelling info against him. I don't think the public will ever see that. Anyway, they had to "revise" their FISA warrant request. In the FISC terms that's not a rejection. We can say it is, but officially, it's not.
But this is certainly entertaining to watch these stooges here get led around by their right wing bloggers.
As to the "same guy" comment--it certainly has crossed my mine. There are three people on here with a pattern of two of the letter "B" in their user name that post strikingly similar conspiracy theories. This OP has a double "P" but posting style seems a bit different.
Carter Page... He was the legal illusion used, to go snooping unbridled.
What has been released so far, is just part of the FBI crap. Soon to come is the committee will release what they know happened in the DOJ. That is where it gets juicy, with Nellie Ohr's(Fusion GPS) ties to the DNC and Susan Rice.
Then we get the State Dept and John Kerry fingered, too, with a whole host of people leaking there.
And finally to Obama and his administration. Cass Sunstien's wife, Samantha Powers had a full time desk at the NSA just gathering communications from Americans. She was the KGB dirt finder. Not just on Trump's election. But very interesting people. Unbridled. Log in and go to town.
Evidence of who committed a crime is one type. Before an investigation is undertaken to determine who committed a crime, you first have to have evidence that a crime was actually committed.
The investigation was started because there was ample evidence and universal agreement by intelligence agencies that Russians had interfered with the 2016 election, that is a crime
Months later, Comey himself told Congress the dossier was “salacious and unverified,” yet was secretly willing to use it in court against Page.
If so, definitely a cause for concern and further review.
nope, you are mistaken:
"The government’s application for the surveillance order targeting Page included a lengthy declaration that laid out investigators’ basis for believing that Page was an agent of the Russian government and knowingly engaged in clandestine intelligence activities on behalf of Moscow, officials said.
Among other things, the application cited contacts that he had with a Russian intelligence operative in New York City in 2013, officials said. Those contacts had earlier surfaced in a federal espionage case brought by the Justice Department against the intelligence operative and two other Russian agents. In addition, the application said Page had other contacts with Russian operatives that have not been publicly disclosed, officials said.
An application for electronic surveillance under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act need not show evidence of a crime.But the information obtained through the intercepts can be used to open a criminal investigation and may be used in a prosecution."
We also know that all of these requests were signed off on by the Obama Administration’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch and that the first request to spy on Trump was denied by the FISA Court.
Imagine if Hillary would have been elected, none of this criminal activity would have surfaced.
Dems and media are in an existential battle, fighting for their existence. the only hope is the free press will emerge again from the ashes. No hope for the party.
Use of the term, 'democrat party' will be forever linked with KKK rallies, Nazis and kill cops mantra of BLM.
No one will touch that name, lest they be called a hate monger in the same vein as the worst history had to offer.
I think Barry is safe if he returns to Kenya. Not sure where Hillary can disappear to....Haiti?
Didn't Bill and Hillary Clinton have the bulk of their foundation money transferred into a Qatar bank? George Soros, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, and Hillary Clinton deserve to be in a jail in North Korea. They were so sure that Hillary would win and none of these actions would ever be discovered.
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Reason: corrected grammar/clarification
Former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd: The FBI people "are ticked" and they'll be saying of Trump, “You’ve been around for 13 months. We've been around since 1908. I know how this game is going to be played. We're going to win"
Win what? Win politically against a sitting President? Isn't this what the entire memo is about?! The FBI shouldn't be in the winning of politics.
In this country, winning is when our constitution stands firm and is upheld as the law of the land we call the USA.
Our sitting president thinks the SYMBOL of our country, the red white and blue FLAG, and standing for another SYMBOL of our country; the national ANTHEM. ..is all that one needs to do to be a good citizen.
It is KINDERGARTEN civics that our sitting president is able to function by.
That, and the orders he receives from foreign agents.
Our president is ignorant of the workings of our great country and takes advice ,and gives aid and comfort to the enemies of our country.
He is a traitor to the country as he has allegiance only to himself.
Evidence gathering takes years. Mueller has plenty - and has no obligation to divulge to the public - UNTIL HE BRINGS AN INDICTMENT - what that evidence is.
So, the fact that there is "nothing out there" bodes VERY POORLY for Trump. It is always what you don't know that trips people up over time.
The delusional can continue to say "oh, but there's nothing out there" - which shows how LITTLE they really KNOW about the process. Clearly the 'little grey cells' are not their strong suit - sorta clones of their leader in that way.
The "Delusional" you are referring to are all of the Trump haters who are involved in doing the investigation. Each and every one of them that has been interviewed has flatly stated that they have not seen any evidence of collusion or any other illegal thing coming from Trump or his gang of America loving good guys..
That after 18 moths of sucking money out of YOUR pocket to continue the sham. Those are the folks who continue to state, "There is nothing out there"!!!
You are correct, those doing the investigation are delusional because the entire investigation was bogus from the beginning, based on corrupt obama's desires to continue his corrupt legacy..
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