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Old 02-04-2018, 06:43 PM
 
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I would have agreed w/ this prior to the election, but I think Trump has governed well to the right (a pleasant surprise to me). We got Gorsuch on the court, who looks to be in the mold of Clarence Thomas (time will tell). We got Rex Tillerson proposing to cut the Dept of State by 30%. We got Betsy DeVos, a longtime school choice advocate, as Ed. Secretary. We didn't get progress on school choice like that that under Ronald Reagan!
I guess that's true, but it was what he promised mostly as I recall. And it's a matter of perspective how right-leaning these actions are. They're considered so today but my argument is that's because Democrats have shifted the window so far leftward.
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Old 02-04-2018, 06:49 PM
 
Location: NYC
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You don't have to like either party. Establishment party is both Dem and GOP, it's only when the President is with one party that's when the issues are moving towards one side. When the Dems lost the house and senate, you can see that Obama had no choice but to side with the establishment GOP on a number of issues and go Executive order on his own.
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Old 02-04-2018, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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It’s almost as if you don’t know the guy you voted for is the king of name-calling.

It’s no wonder he was able to con so many of you.

Back during the Depression, hobos and con artists had a special, secret mark they put on the front gates of houses where suckers lived, who could be talked out of food and money. You'd think that some enterprising crook would compile the names of Trump voters on a sucker list and sell it to the modern-day counterparts of those con artists.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: DFW
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This thread is good reading and right on point. We all need to be sure and vote in every election.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:34 PM
 
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Back during the Depression, hobos and con artists had a special, secret mark they put on the front gates of houses where suckers lived, who could be talked out of food and money. You'd think that some enterprising crook would compile the names of Trump voters on a sucker list and sell it to the modern-day counterparts of those con artists.
Hahaha, right!

Hey suckers, I’ve got $1.50 for ya!
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Back during the Depression, hobos and con artists had a special, secret mark they put on the front gates of houses where suckers lived, who could be talked out of food and money. You'd think that some enterprising crook would compile the names of Trump voters on a sucker list and sell it to the modern-day counterparts of those con artists.
You can put my name on that list; but your con artists will not go too far. I wasn't a big enough sucker to vote for Hillary!

Hillary never understood that; calling people names does not win voters. She made us proud to be deplorable! She made us proud to not vote for her and I still am! She made me proud that I am no longer a Democrat!
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:29 PM
 
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You can put my name on that list; but your con artists will not go too far. I wasn't a big enough sucker to vote for Hillary!

Hillary never understood that; calling people names does not win voters. She made us proud to be deplorable! She made us proud to not vote for her and I still am! She made me proud that I am no longer a Democrat!
The Democrat left still does not realize that calling people names, harrassing them, insulting them and trying to intimidate and bully them, does not make people want to vote for the people who act like this. This seems like it should be pretty obvious, but to millions among the Democrat left, it apparently is nothing of the sort.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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The Democrat left still does not realize that calling people names, harrassing them, insulting them and trying to intimidate and bully them, does not make people want to vote for the people who act like this. This seems like it should be pretty obvious, but to millions among the Democrat left, it apparently is nothing of the sort.
Yeah it's like they were showing favoritism to gays, illegals, potential immigrants and foreigners. Most American's don't fit those identities and even among the few that do, they don't all support favoritism.

On top of that Hillary was trying to shame everyone from voting for Trump by making a caricature of his supporters. But voters saw the camera footage and saw who the shameful and disgraceful really were.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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The Democrat left still does not realize that calling people names, harrassing them, insulting them and trying to intimidate and bully them, does not make people want to vote for the people who act like this. This seems like it should be pretty obvious, but to millions among the Democrat left, it apparently is nothing of the sort.
We try to help them and they refuse to see the light. It kind of reminds me of that stupid commercial on TV where they talk about people that love to bang their heads, sit in gum and walk into doors! You cannot win an election if you alienate half the voters before you ever present your campaign pledges. Actually I should not say they will never see the light, if they hit themselves in the head hard enough; there is always a chance!
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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I never trusted either main party but changed my party based either on whim, fashion or to vote for a particular person. Most of the time I didn't vote at all.

I voted for Trump because he couldn't be pigeonholed and didn't owe anyone anything since he wasn't a career politician. However, I had no idea how truly corrupt the Dems were until I started paying attention to politics, thanks to Trump. I think that is true for most people, which is a good thing. Fewer will just passively swallow the pap spewed out by biased elite media. The worm has turned!
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