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Old 02-04-2018, 10:27 PM
 
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...what does Black Lives Matter have to do with this?

They caught the killer and he’s either going to jail or get deported? It’s not like he killed these two gentlemen intentionally because of their race.


Good grief, people are just stupid.
At first, I'm 100% with you....and I am in terms of actual punishment.

But if we step back and look at a bigger picture, this turns into a case of the government turning a blind eye to something they don't want to deal with politically.

Major cities don't want to take on their police unions where the majority of this crap is happening.

In addition, politicians don't want to face the associated costs of ignoring masses of illegal immigrants because....

1) Cheap labor.
2) Cheap labor.
3) Cheap labor.
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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10 000 Americans die in DUI related accidents every year, which is more than we lost in Vietnam war per year. It is a big problem, which politicians seem to afraid to combat.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:07 AM
 
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I'm sure BLM will be all over this one....
The uber driver who was driving him and the colts Player were both black.. I personally knew this driver and he was one of 2 we lost that night. There was a head on drunk driver into a uber driver on the other side of indy just a hour before this incident. In that horrific tragedy both the drunk driver and uber driver died and passenger is in critical condition.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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That sucks..... RIP

If the guy is an ILLEGAL then throw the book at him, his employer, and anyone else who was responsible for him being here.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:27 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yep, looks like Immigration has him on a retainer. It appears the media is lying by omission.
Yep. This article has info on how to look that up:
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"Booking documents from the Marion County Jail, which can be searched for at Inmate Lookup Tool and found at case number 1804804, show that Mr. Cabrera Gonsales is an immigrant from Mexico who is subject to deportation."
Mexican without license accused in DUI death of Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:03 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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At first, I'm 100% with you....and I am in terms of actual punishment.

But if we step back and look at a bigger picture, this turns into a case of the government turning a blind eye to something they don't want to deal with politically.

Major cities don't want to take on their police unions where the majority of this crap is happening.

In addition, politicians don't want to face the associated costs of ignoring masses of illegal immigrants because....

1) Cheap labor.
2) Cheap labor.
3) Cheap labor.
Yup. I agree with you.

From the rich family that has landscaping services done to their property to the billion dollar corporations, cheap (illegal) labor is worth sacrificing human lives at times.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Seems most agree that the employer should also be held accountable but a lot of good that does when they are not. For some reason (and this applies to both sides) people absolutely refuse to hold "their guy" responsible for doing the right thing.

Rarely do we have an issue that both sides agree with but the politicians refuse to address. They refuse because they know that they will still be backed because of the letter after their name.

When will we stop doing that?
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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IF his employer knew he was an illegal, if he is, you have no argument from me on your conclusion. How about politicians and voters who elected them? should they also serve time? I think so. do you? at the very least, all the people who protected an illegal criminal, if he is an illegal, would be culpable for Jackson's and the other person's death.

There are laws on the books, politicians aren't responsible for enforcing them. I don't believe we'd have an illegal problem if they were unable to work and send $$$ home and don't believe a wall is going to change that.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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"Detectives were able to determine the man was using an alias and his given name was Manuel Orrego-Savala and he a citizen of Guatemala by birth. Orrego-Savala was in the country illegally and was previously deported on two occasions, in 2007 and in 2009."

http://www.wpta21.com/story/37429348...olt-linebacker
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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"Detectives were able to determine the man was using an alias and his given name was Manuel Orrego-Savala and he a citizen of Guatemala by birth. Orrego-Savala was in the country illegally and was previously deported on two occasions, in 2007 and in 2009."

Police continue to investigate crash that claimed two lives, inc - ABC21: Your Weather Authority
Why did he continue to come back? The jobs are here.
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