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Old 02-09-2018, 12:35 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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That is if you find a job in TN that pays 70K. It's more like upper middle class.
Not in the good burbs of Nashville. ALMOST got a job there. Housing costs surprised me tho not nearly like the coasts... Not dirt cheap either which I was thinking until I looked.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I've pretty well lived my whole life in California short of four years in Hawaii, so I can speak from at least that experience, some 60 years now in the making...

I could have also chosen to live just about any other place in America. In fact, part of why I left employment with a large Fortune 500 company is because they were apt to transfer me and my family to other parts of the country like they did when they transferred me from the Bay Area to Hawaii. "The writing was on the wall" as they say, and since I didn't want to leave California or the Bay Area once transferred back, nor did I want my kids getting moved from state to state, school to school, I quit and started my own business in the Bay Area.

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You already own your own home covered by prop 13?

If yes, that is a HUGE advantage.

I agree about one thing. Beautiful area. My grandparents lived in Pacific Grove near the railroad tracks by a giant redwood ?and their house backed to a park? Tiny house probably worth $2 M now.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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The majority are probably leaving because they can't afford the housing.
This would be good news for San Francisco, and if it's Democrats leaving and moving to battle ground states, it's good news for all.
Sure, like kudzu.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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Typical right-wing lunacy.

If everyone moves to a "liberal" state for jobs and opportunities, they whine about it and act insanely proud over the fact that nobody wants to live in their backward, impoverished states.

Then, if people leave the "liberal" state because of high housing costs (because of the growing economy and all the people moving there for work), they act proud, as if all those people are going to move to backward red states, lose 20 points off their IQ, and start voting Republican..

I'm still waiting for the prideful righties to post a single good reason to live in the red part of any red state. We know they can't - even the prosperous parts of red states are usually blue or purple. Lunacy...
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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I am a proud Republican who hates Bay Area politics and I tell you that it is the cost that is driving people out. Two bedrooms and one bath is over a million dollars in San Mateo county. My wife and I make beween us better than 200K and we are working class.

Basically, San Jose is a very hot market, and already places like Gilroy and Morgan Hill are filling up. After that, where is anyone going to go to live if they don't make 250K a year and want to live in the Bay Area? You have to buy so far away that your commutes become impossible 3-4 hour slogs with traffic.

The politics and homelessness are large detriments for me, but most of the people around here are libdems. As or the homeless, it is all over to an extent but a lot of it is concentrated in certain parts of SF, SJ, and Oakland that you just stay out of if you don't want to see it.

As for people leaving, how I wish that it were true, but even parts of Oakland are becoming gentrified, and all over the West Bay, they are building upwards and upwards, so the money keeps pouring in.
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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Change and how you accept change is a big part of it.

Those I know that left could afford to stay... but the temptation of all that equity and lower cost and slower pace is the lure.

It is an amazing feeling to own a nice home outright with money in the bank is a quote from one of my friends... even better if you have any kind of pension following you.

Old timers often speak about traffic... too much or too many people... they remember a time before stop and go and on the same freeways...

A few have cited politics but not many of those I know.

I did watch the clip when it aired...

First thing I thought of seeing it was how nice it was the woman has options... options enhanced by being a long time Bay Area resident.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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They are mostly cashing in on the Ponzi scheme that is SF/San Jose housing. The prices should eventually start dropping and make life easier for younger people.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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Funny article. The highlight of the piece is a retired Silicon Valley homeowner who cashes in and buys a home twice the size for half the money somewhere else. So what else is new! That's what most people do. So many people move to neighboring states that they've invented a name for it -- Californication.

Note that article didn't say anything about home prices which are at an all-time high.

I bought my home for $225K and now it's worth $1.5M. And my property taxes as almost nothing, thank you prop 13. We're mostly retired (I have a small business) but we won't be moving, we just love the area to much to leave it. (Admittedly we're in a very nice area.)
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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Funny article. The highlight of the piece is a retired Silicon Valley homeowner who cashes in and buys a home twice the size for half the money somewhere else. So what else is new! That's what most people do. So many people move to neighboring states that they've invented a name for it -- Californication.

Note that article didn't say anything about home prices which are at an all-time high.

I bought my home for $225K and now it's worth $1.5M. And my property taxes as almost nothing, thank you prop 13. We're mostly retired (I have a small business) but we won't be moving, we just love the area to much to leave it. (Admittedly we're in a very nice area.)
Really? 225K? So how did you feel about the FDR Presidency since you probably voted for him?
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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Really? 225K? So how did you feel about the FDR Presidency since you probably voted for him?
Reagan actually, and no I didn't vote for him.
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