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Old 02-11-2018, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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The damage was caused by you, for driving a vehicle through the deers' natural territory. If you'd been on foot, as Nature intended us to travel, there would have been no conflict. I once killed a deer with a bicycle. I was going down a long hill at 40 mph, after dark, with a full moon behind me. It was entirely my fault and that of the other humans, who had placed that road in the deer's pathway. I walked away with only a small scratch on my leg. I no longer operate any kind of wheeled vehicle, not even a lawnmower.
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The average speed of walking is 3 mph. When I was a traveling salesman I used to put 35,000 miles on my car per year. Walking that distance would only take me 11,666 hours per year. Unfortunately, a year has fewer hours. So even if I walked non-stop day and night all year I still wouldn't have met with my customers.

You might be happy to know I used a manual push mower. No gasoline, but it still had wheels.

Of course, I was speaking idealistically. I might make the exception on the no-wheels thing, if I could find a good push-mower. They've brought back long-play vinyl records, so why not human-powered mowers? Hasn't online sales made traveling salespeople obsolete?
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Old 02-11-2018, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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As long as you set the speed you are at fault. I wonder if the cars will be able to give tickets to the passengers for setting the speed too high? It would save the embarrassment of being pulled over by our police!
They autonomous vehicles will provide no way to set anything. Best the user has is a kill button to pull it over to the side of the road.
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Old 02-11-2018, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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They autonomous vehicles will provide no way to set anything. Best the user has is a kill button to pull it over to the side of the road.
Next we will have robotic police cars to pull over robotic cars! Do robots give breaks to robots? How do you bribe a robotic police car: a ticket to see The Tin Man or a gift card for a lube job!
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is a strong argument for driving my present car until either it or I expire of old age.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Don't put all your money on a child being more valuable.
At the time of death a child has less economic value (NOT emotional and ins co's don't pay out on emotion) than an adult male supporting a wife and children.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:33 AM
 
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These cars are going to be able calculate the physics of multiple situations instantaneously and be able to manipulate the vehicle in ways no human ever could ever hope to achieve. e.g. independently braking or accelerating any wheel.

This is moral issue, it's not a technology issue.
The software can't overcome physics. Many accidents WILL happen. They already are where these are being used. I don't know about you, but I don't want software deciding my fate, if it's the child or me, it's the child every single time.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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That kind of technology requires infrastructure.

The "morality" that you ignore is the FREEDOM automobiles afford to individuals.
There is already cars doing this on existing infrastructure like Uber's pilot program in Pittburgh. When this technology fully evolves and every car has it you will need less infrastructure. e.g. no more stop signs, red lights and lanes of travel can be bidirectional.

There is no loss of freedom, you tell the car where to go and it takes you there. If anything this will increase freedom of movement because those that cannot drive will be able to have a personal car.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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The software can't overcome physics. Many accidents WILL happen.
No it can't but it can certainly calculate the physic of any given situation and react to it before a human even has a chance to take their foot off the accelerator. Accidents will continue to occur but they will be reduced significantly, accidents that do occur will be the result of mechanical failure or things outside the control of the car.

You will never be ever to compete with the abilities of these cars, physically or mentally.
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