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Old 02-13-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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Fascism - far right wing.
Communism - far left.
Both - totalitarian.
End of story.
You're wrong. Gun banning and confiscation, as happened in Nazi Germany, is left wing, not right wing. Confiscation and redistribution of wealth, as happened in Nazi Germany, is left wing, not right wing.

Just look at all the lefties here on city-data always calling for the confiscation and redistribution of wealth.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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That was some mighty good mental gymnastics.
There is nothing Conservative about collective socialism. Nothing!
The right wing conservative individual, has no king thinking for them as the collective subjects of the kings demands.

I am as sovereign as any king, or President, or any nation. Put your Monarchy on that.

Fascism, is a collective social construct. There is nothing about individualism about it. Controlling the masses, under corporate rule. Example: Donald Trump broke away from the Fascist mold, this nation had become. Where puppets are placed by the money of corporations, instead of leaders elected by the will of the people.
I'm not really sure what you are talking about, but let me just say there is nothing conservative about running humongous budget deficits. And big government, aka ridiculous military expense.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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You're wrong. Gun banning and confiscation, as happened in Nazi Germany, is left wing, not right wing. Confiscation and redistribution of wealth, as happened in Nazi Germany, is left wing, not right wing.

Just look at all the lefties here on city-data always calling for the confiscation and redistribution of wealth.
Lol. Logic does not work with you, so I'll resist this time.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:49 PM
 
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Lol. Logic does not work with you, so I'll resist this time.
You can remain deluded, if you wish. That's your prerogative.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:01 PM
 
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You're wrong. Gun banning and confiscation, as happened in Nazi Germany, is left wing, not right wing. Confiscation and redistribution of wealth, as happened in Nazi Germany, is left wing, not right wing.

Just look at all the lefties here on city-data always calling for the confiscation and redistribution of wealth.
The "left wing" tactics can be employed in order to achieve the ultimate right-wing goals.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:11 PM
 
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Fascism - far right wing.
Communism - far left.
Both - totalitarian.
End of story.

Spain, Italy, Germany, Greece. Never too late to read up.

To get started (wikipedia):

In the 1920s the Italian Fascists described their ideology as right-wing in the political program The Doctrine of Fascism, stating: "We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right,' a fascist century"
You are wrong. Far right would be no government at all. Anarco-capitlism or flat out anarchy. Fascism requires a large powerful government is a form of totalitarianism, it doesnt really fit either party but it's more closely aligned with the left. It's basically just racism, the southern white Dixiecrats who voted for the new deal and the new society en masse were very racist and very fond of big government they would be the closest thing we have had to fascists in the modern era in the US.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:12 PM
 
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The "left wing" tactics can be employed in order to achieve the ultimate right-wing goals.
No, they can't. As has been pointed out several times in this thread, subjugation of the individual to the benefit of the collective society is not right wing. It's left wing. Always has been. Always will be.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:27 PM
 
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No, they can't. As has been pointed out several times in this thread, subjugation of the individual to the benefit of the collective society is not right wing. It's left wing. Always has been. Always will be.
Except for it's not the "collective society" that was benefiting in this case. "Collective society" - that's the Jews, the socialists and whoever else was part of the aforementioned "collective society."
In case of Hitler's Germany, it was specifically one ethnic group that was supposed to benefit as the end result, and racial policies (that were yet again the ultimate end result of Hitler's Germany) belong with the "right wing" ideas.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:34 PM
 
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Except for it's not the "collective society" that was benefiting in this case.
Actually, it was, for Hitler's chosen classes. The Democrats/left wing does the same here in the US, always demanding the redistribution of wealth to benefit some but not all.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:49 PM
 
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Actually, it was, for Hitler's chosen classes.
It was not about "classes." ( "Classes" - that's Soviet Union.) It was about RACE.

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The Democrats/left wing does the same here in the US, always demanding the redistribution of wealth to benefit some but not all.
You are either getting confused, or you are trying to muddy the waters on purpose.
Write on the right side of your paper ( as everything pertaining to the "right wing" ideas) "Racial superiority" and put the check mark where it belongs pls.
And that's what it was all about in Hitler's Germany.
When it comes to "racial superiority" in the US, the check mark will go on the right side yet again.
So there you have it - it's all consistent.
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