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I don't buy into any "hate white people" stuff... I've written much about the history of racism with an aim to get people to look back at the wrongs of the past and the wrongs from that past that reverberates in racist mentalities. Face up to the vile of such history and learn and live with respect for "individual people" and respect he cultural and ethnic diversity as being the make up of what is America and what is the composition of American people.
Now, you can spin that any way you want... but it won't change my stance of moving forward as a society, that works and overcomes racist ignorance.
No one can correct and change anything if they deny the history that made it so crazed and persisted so long.
We are only 53.x yrs since the need for Civil Rights Act was passed... after 100's of years of inhumanity, and a 100 yrs of segregated madness based on the mentality of those 100's of years of inhumanity.
No... racism is not stomped out in all sectors of this nation nor in the minds, and in some of the habitual ideological elements that were groomed into society, from such a history of such. Anyone denying that fact, is not facing the truth.
It is a continual work to dismiss the stereotype habits, as well as the prejudiced mentalities that were nurtured for 100's of years in America, that became a part of cultural norms from race based bias, bigotry and habitual cultural grooming's.
It's evident through out this site in so many postings. I've addressed a great many, all with the aim and intent to get people to look back and LEARN, to become aware of the history that made them think in such ways, as some insist on still thinking today.
The Civil Right Act, had to be a force of law, to keep people from pushing that habitual groomed mentality in public, but As LBJ, alluded to, is the fact, that many still harbor this cultural groomed madness in their hearts and minds.
He summed it up very well, when he said:
[quote] "President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
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Politicians and pundits have played on that type of madness even still since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
With lying about public assistance, when fact is there is no way that 13% of the population can use more benefits than white society, which is far more than 60+% of white society.
During George Wallace fight, he detested the idea of American Tax Money and the benefits it provides be provided to black people. When fact is... black people have always paid tax in American, Slavery was not only 100% tax placed upon black people, it was 100% free labor profits for white people, many who paid not one penny for the profit gained by the use of slave labor. It was only tax on his sales, which means, that was black peoples labor which translated into the tax money money that helped build this nation, and the things white society enjoyed, while first denying any of it to be accessible to blacks, and then for 100 yrs, with a segregated system that still denied black people the benefits of what their tax dollars built and supported.
Learn "HISTORY", and do it with OPENED EYES..... AND STOP DENYING THE FACT OF REAL HISTORICAL TRUTHS....
One can't even point to a time in American history where it was of racial honesty and fairness and non racial madness enacted upon people of color, such honesty and fairness was not promoted and engaged. and now, some want to know... how and why they are not instantly trusted by many non white citizens.
One will have to earn the trust, it is not to be given just because one's skin is white!!!!; Trust is not to be instantly inferred upon a people because of their white skin, after 100's of years of vile and inhumanity upon and against others who are non white, and 100's of years of white skin cultural grooming which promoted to declare by their acts, that no- people of color could trust white society, especially when it came using even the laws of this land to attack, desecrate and disenfranchise and non white people. After all that vile ignorance and violent madness upon people of color and against the whole ethnicity of non white people... One will have to earn the trust, it is not to be given just because one's skin is white!!!! because they think themselves ENTITLED, to be submitted to and still expecting something from people color, when some have given nothing, to earn such trust. Live civil and respect the multicultural nature of all persons, and live with dignity of civil respect for others, and one has not to worry about much, because their actions and character will gain them the respect according to their mentality and character deeds in a multi-cultural civil society.
10's of Millions of white people don't have issue with other non white people and they deal with people as people.
Sadly,
We still have a mass in the Right Wing sector still trying to push some ignorance of white superiority, and racist ignorance not unlike their own ancestry did, they simply choose to be incapable to learning or taking responsibility for the vile such mentality promoted, instead they try and perpetuate it. Then expect to be embraced for such vile and madness.
If anything, ask yourself how and why so much of white society for so long supported such vile. all of it was a long history of desecrating the very Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution and trying to claim it was only for white people.
When you learn those things and face that vile history, then talk...... It took black people 100 of yrs protesting and in the 1960's marching in the streets and TV camera's to show white society a reflection of itself, that helped the "non racist, and non prejudiced white people, to stand and support Civil Rights. The Civil Rights Act also freed many white people as well, to communicate, relate and associate and build friendships with whom ever they want, without fear of being attack by the anti black racist who'd just as well kill a white person who supported and associated with blacks, as they would with eagerness kill a black person.
Last edited by Chance and Change; 02-19-2018 at 10:51 AM..
That's your prerogative. But, sadly, it DOES exist. The entirety of Black Liberation Theology (e.g., Reverend Wright and Obama's church of 20+ years) is all about "hate whitey," "evil whitey," etc.
How in the heck is Black Liberation Anti White.... do you even understand the concept of a black people who have had their liberties decimated by a long history of what was slavery. Maybe you first need to understand the extreme vile of what was slavery, not just against the people enslaved and even considered black people as non human, as if to consider them property, all being done with no less regard for the dignity of human life, than to consider and treat human life as if its a farm animal they could use and abuse to enrich themselves and slaughter at will.
But, not only done to the people who were enslaved, but done to the nations those people came from; being plunder, discredited and looted and disenfranchised, and dealt with as if they were not human and done without respect for their humane and civil rights as human beings. while the very nature of every resource from their land being taken, and nothing of what was taken was used in any way to help the same nations of black people it was taken from, and this has gone on for 100's of years
What seems to irk you more is the fact that Black Liberation means, no more subservience to white ethnicity, no more submission to white dominance, and certainly no pandering by black people to some delusion of white superiority.
and you call that being Anti White... No.. Black Liberation is about respect and dignity as an EQUAL PEOPLE and an EQUAL Ethnicity. That does not need to diminish itself as what it is, to be submissive to those who think in terms of white dominance.
It's far deeper than you even care to consider, because you see it from a white superiority premise, of what you have over 100's of years been groomed to expect and cultural habits have made such types to feel entitled to expect of none white people, to be remanded as if to command to pandering to your ethnicity.
And because black people speak up about the things you have been groomed deny of your own ethnicities historical conducts and actions. It appears your anguish is more that the delusions of entitlement are not longer to exist, and fact is, they are NOT going to exist in the present or the coming future. So... think Equality, and understand what it has taken to break down the walls of Inequality and the Ideology of Inequality that white ethnicity has subjected and brutally enacted upon and against people of color and non white ethnicity.
We need not be silent about the things white society spent centuries denying among themselves, while they continued to do it, while at the same time wanting to present a public image of being of an integrity that was not evident in the acts they engaged upon and against others. When such truths are put on the table, you call it Anti-white, when fact is, it is telling of the white ethnic history you have been groomed to deny the existences of.
No... Truth of Black Liberation's is not a Anti White, it is about not allowing white dictations and white dominance to control the moving future of non white people. There are people all over the world denying the continuance of white dominance to influence and dictate their lives or their future. The Chinese, The Japanese and every other including Arab Nations are all standing against the white dominance cultural groomed manners be the decision makers of their lives nor their future or the future of their children.
No.. the white nationalist, white supremacist madness or any of such thing will never again have or gain such dominance over people on non white ethnicity. So... call it what ever you want, but if you have the insight and intellect to see the truths, you will realize that people will continue to demand. Social, Civic, Cultural and Economic Equality.... and it doing so, it will be exposed of the vile of what white dominance aspirations has done, caused and how it engaged to promote itself, upon and against others. When you figure that out, or open your eyes to see it... Then you will understand that Black Liberation is about "EQUALITY" among Human Beings.
Get over yourself, no longer will white ethnicity, ration out rights to other people, not to liberal white people nor to non white people. That Era is Over!!!!
You are not prepared to have this nature of conversation.... which is evident... in your expressed surmise.
Last edited by Chance and Change; 02-19-2018 at 12:37 PM..
How in the heck is Black Liberation Anti White....
Read the direct quotes from the founder of Black Liberation Theology that I posted earlier in the thread...
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Obama's church of 20+ years, with Reverend Wright at the helm and as his spiritual advisor, is a Black Liberation Theology church. To understand the mentality the Obamas were steeped in for 20+ years, you need to know the beliefs of Black Liberation Theology.
Direct quotes from James Cone, Black Liberation Theology's founder:
"all white men are responsible for white oppression" Black Theology and Black Power - James H. Cone -
"The goal of black theology is the destruction of everything white, so that blacks can be liberated from alien gods." A Black Theology of Liberation - James H. Cone - Google Books
"The free person in America is the one who does not tolerate whiteness but fights against it, knowing that it is the source of human misery." A Black Theology of Liberation - James H. Cone - Google Books
"Most whites, some despite involvement in protests, do believe in "freedom in democracy," and they fight to make the ideals of the Constitution an empirical reality for all. It seems that they believe that, if we just work hard enough at it, this country can be what it ought to be. But it never dawns on these do-gooders that what is wrong with America is not its failure to make the Constitution a reality for all, but rather its belief that persons can affirm whiteness and humanity at the same time." - James H. Cone https://books.google.com/books?id=HW...page&q&f=false
And Reverend Wright, speaking in a traditionally Black church in Washington, DC, more recently:
Quote:
"Take that baby, him or her, away from the African mother, away from the African community, away from the African experience ... and put them Africans over at the breasts of Yale, Harvard, University of Chicago ... UCLA or UC-Berkeley," he said. "Turn them into biscuits. Let them get that alien DNA all up inside their brain and they will turn on their own people in defense of the ones who are keeping their own people under oppression. Sheep dogs."
"There's white racist DNA running through the synapses of his or her brain tissue. They will kill their own kind ...defend the enemies of their kind, not anyone who is perceived to be the enemy of the milky white way of life."
Grasp what was written in post #283.. and put things inperspective.
Can the history of white ethnicity say that it has not committed these historical atrocities upon and against people of color the world over; not only African Nation People, But India, Chinese and Every other Ethnicity of people by Anglo Ethnicity people?
Then you might gain the context to see what your quoted text is referencing. The question should be, why is the long history has white ethnic people been of such vile and brutality and other such acts upon and against others. That is a question you seem not to ask yourself? Often it is not asked, because of the sense of "entitlement to have done so".
Even up to and including the American Indiana's who made Treaties, and white ethnic people broke those treaties and at one period tried enslaving even the Native Indians of this country, and when that was not successful, they commenced to slaughter them by the 10's of thousands, all across this land.
You don't want to see or know the truths of that white ethnic legacy and conduct. Even Columbus was told not to kidnap and enslave Indians and bring them as such back to the European Continent under such duress, and he did so anyway.
These element of history was "white washed away and not taught to white society", as was the same habit done with regards to the 100's of yrs of slavery.
Yet, the sense of "entitlement by skin color" has taught white society for centuries that it was just for them to have done such things to other human beings. In essence and principle, all for "self glory and self enrichment" and the delusions of superiority.
Now, when you read that truth into the history you know... you may learn to see things beyond your sense of entitlement groomed mentality. Then and only then will and does the Truths unfold.
This thread and this forum have developed into a white racist cesspool.
You misunderstand the topic of this thread. It's about Obama's selection of a "kill whitey" portrait artist for his official Smithsonian portrait, and how Obama had been steeped for decades in "hate whitey" rhetoric even though he himself was a child of privileges very few ever get.
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