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Originally Posted by mollygee
Why do you think assault rifles are needed? Hopefully, the ban will be reinstated. We need to protect our children in schools.<>
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I'm relatively new to this thread. I arrived because I started a thread on what I thought was a separate topic: the CNN Town Talk program last night with the students, parents, and faculty of Stoneman Douglas talking with politicians, the sheriff of Broward, and Dana Loesch representing the NRA. That got merged here.
The vocabulary keeps getting merged, too.
Approximately NOBODY thinks
assault rifles are needed.
Imagine for a moment there was a problem with a specific car, just say, oh, an Explorer which blows tires and rolls over and kills people 6 at a time. The logical thing is to fix the problem, not to start asking why people need a big car which can carry that many people at a time through rain, mud, and snow. Especially unhelpful if you think the solution is to outlaw all vehicles with four wheel drive and high ground clearance. It is very confusing when the Chevrolet version of that class of vehicles does not have the problem and you insist on calling the Chevy vehicle an Explorer and insisting the solution is to take them both off the market while ignoring the actual problem. The actual problem in that case was the TIRES.
The actual problem with guns is CRAZY PEOPLE.
I don't know if a single person who hates tires, I mean, guns, will ever understand this. So if you have to call a
big black ugly self loading weapon with a large magazine an AR-15 assault rifle, I guess we will just let you have your moniker. It makes it easier for the media to write and talk, too.
The major complaint at Stoneman Douglas last night was yours, why haven't we banned the guns? The answer is we did, and it didn't have any effect at all. The Law was an
experiment with an end date. So it expired. The Democrats had the power to reinstate it when they had the POTUS, the entire Congress, the DNC platform and they did nothing. So now some want to limit all self loading guns to the military and the police. I can name a lot of politicians who were in favor of that starting with Hitler and Stalin, moving on to Bashar al-Assad and continuing with Nicolás Maduro. The fear of that happening here is very real to a lot of people.
Yes, a full automatic with a bayonet mount is a weapon of war. Civilians don't get to have those.
A weapon to hunt animals that are moving at a couple of hundred yards does not need more that (smallnum) cartridges or the hunter should go back to the range.
People trying to clear out wild boars need a big pile of rapid fire, high capacity weapons.
That is why there are many designs of rifles available to the public.
Moving to your next proposal, reinstate the ban. There is a technical challenge here which as many gun enthusiasts will tell you they would welcome as a fun part of shooting at targets. That challenge is to increase the rate of fire to be faster that the next guy at the range. To a mechanically minded shooter, it is just like hot rods. To have a gun that looks cooler and shoots faster is a wonderful thing. To these people the guy that invented the bump stop was not encouraging murder, he was creating a nifty gadget to burn more cartridges faster for fun.
The point is go ahead and ban whatever, we'll design around it for fun and recreation and the bad guys will have them too. Rubio said last night that the 1994 law outlawed 200 rifles, while there were
2000 functionally identical rifles not on the list. Ban them by list or description and my first assignment as an armory engineer the next Monday will be to design around it and find a way to make a permitted weapon faster.
Yes, make the schools safer and resistant to entry by bad people with guns. We all want that, no doubt. The NRA put together a solid plan in 2009 which I am tracking down for a link. Many schools have implemented all or part of it, as mentioned by Dana Loesch representing the NRA last night. Loud booing of her ensued which was simplistic reflex.
Find it and bring it to your local law enforcement and school board to accomplish your last goal. The detailed plan to do what you want to do exists. Congress and your State are not going to do it. All politics is local. Make it your local activity. School board meeting are open to the public. Get enough voters together and they will agree to pay for it with bond issues.
BTW, I do have a plan on how to get semi-automatic weapons out of the hands of the general public and out of the hands of the crazy people in another thread. I'll track it down for you.
In short, define the "Well trained militia" in terms of an actual Federally Chartered group instead of just an implied citizenry between 17 and 45. I'll try and post the link.
Here it is, the way to protect schools. Not some off the cuff concept but a detailed plan backed up and documented. I'm sure if you contact the NRA they will help you implement the plan protect your local schools.
https://www.nationalschoolshield.org/