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View Poll Results: Other than the shooter, who do you think is most responsible for the tragedy
Youtube, for deleting the warning comments of someone on the video 1 0.71%
The FBI 19 13.57%
The sheriff and his deputies 19 13.57%
The NRA 21 15.00%
Donald Trump 1 0.71%
The Second Amendment 6 4.29%
The FBI AND the sheriff and deputies and maybe Youtube too 51 36.43%
Other 22 15.71%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-15-2018, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Early America
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I guess since this is a political board.
Its way past the time to talk about gun violence AND also talk about WHY are children are being raised with such hate.
American culture is a message of hate. Hate America. Hate Trump. Hate everyone who doesn't hate those things. Kids are bombarded with hate propaganda and fear-mongering 24/7 from mainstream media, social media, the entertainment industry and schools.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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American culture is a message of hate. Hate America. Hate Trump. Hate everyone who doesn't hate those things. Kids are bombarded with hate propaganda and fear-mongering 24/7 from mainstream media, social media, the entertainment industry and schools.
No, kids are far more interested in bullying other kids who are different from having big noses, being too fat, too short, for not being straight, or whatever else that is different or not cool.

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Old 02-15-2018, 02:11 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Airports didn’t have much security until planes started getting hijacked on a regular basis. Look at all the security they have now. Nio mass shootings either. Students deserve the same level of security.

Edit: I take that back. There have been mass shootings, but still rarer than at schools.

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Old 02-15-2018, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Early America
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No, kids are far more interested in bullying other kids who are different from having big noses, being too fat, too short, being *****, of whatever else that is different or not cool.
Stop. Bullying has ALWAYS gone on. Today there are repercussions for bullying; there were NONE in the past, and EVERYONE had guns ... and yet, schools weren't shot up, students weren't slaughtered regularly.

STOP blaming kids for this crap.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Stop. Bullying has ALWAYS gone on. Today there are repercussions for bullying; there were NONE in the past, and EVERYONE had guns ... and yet, schools weren't shot up, students weren't slaughtered regularly.

STOP blaming kids for this crap.
My God, my God, just who the hell are you anyway? You are so all out WRONG that I can only take pity out on you as a human being. It is a matter of FACT that bullying still goes on and is still not being adequately addressed by society or the schools. The bullying kids must be blamed for it as well as adults, meaning parents and teachers. For all I know, you were a real cool kid and never got bullied while in school.

And you're also vastly, vastly wrong for saying everybody had guns. At best, some of the farm kids had guns, and that was about it. I was a rural kid for part of my young life and never had a gun.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:39 AM
 
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Stop. Bullying has ALWAYS gone on. Today there are repercussions for bullying; there were NONE in the past, and EVERYONE had guns ... and yet, schools weren't shot up, students weren't slaughtered regularly.

STOP blaming kids for this crap.
I don`t blame the kids. I blame the gun/criminal lobby whose core belief is Body Counts Don`t Matter.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Using the ban guns logic ... sounds like public schools should be banned.
No more government schools?

Talk about a step in the right direction.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:50 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Yeah, 'cause criminals are such law-abiding people. /heavy sarcasm

Do some of you realize how ridiculous you sound? /SMH
I'm not talking about the criminals here, I'm talking about the idiots who seem to think a heavily armed populace is somehow a good idea!
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Early America
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My God, my God, just who the hell are you anyway? You are so all out WRONG that I can only take pity out on you as a human being. It is a matter of FACT that bullying still goes on and is still not being adequately addressed by society or the schools. The bullying kids must be blamed for it as well as adults, meaning parents and teachers. For all I know, you were a real cool kid and never got bullied while in school.

And you're also vastly, vastly wrong for saying everybody had guns. At best, some of the farm kids had guns, and that was about it. I was a rural kid for part of my young life and never had a gun.
Uh-huh, it's just a coincidence that kids still do what kids always did but it didn't cause school massacres before. It's just a coincidence that kids had easier access to guns and other weapons (most boys carried pocket knives) in the past but didn't randomly slaughter other kids. Sure. If that is what you need to tell yourself.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I'm not talking about the criminals here, I'm talking about the idiots who seem to think a heavily armed populace is somehow a good idea!
So... your suggestion is to make sure only the criminals are heavily armed? Sheer idiocy. Remember, gun laws are useless against criminals. They don't abide by laws, hence... their criminal acts.
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