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Old 02-18-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
You're completely missing the point. A 50% increase in gun ownership HAS NOT resulted in a 50% increase in gun homicides.

The problem ISN'T guns.

Statistically, more guns = less crime. I'll take those odds.
You are missing the point. You might as well argue that increase in milk consumption caused homicides to decline. More milk=less crime.

No, gun hoarding has not resulted in increase in homicides. If I had 3 guns in 1990, and now I have 15, why would it change anything?

 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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I brought up Chicago, because according to your logic the decline there must have been caused by the gun laws.
It could had been interesting to add Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, Newark, New Orleans, Washington DC stats to compare.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The problem ISN'T guns.
The problem is people like you who take NO action are in several ways complicit in these mass slaughters. You bring up unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence and call those, who just want someone who is mentally ill not have a gun so their child wont die in school, a "extremest".
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:13 AM
 
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Meanwhile it turns out that the Florida high school shooter held racist and homophobic views but you're talking about Liberal extremists. Really?
Well of course they will try to change the subject. It happens every time that innocent children are slaughtered in this country. They have to change the subject to "be afraid, the liberals are coming" or "Oh My God the illegals are taking our jobs" - pick the alt-Right narrative of your choice. They will do ANYTHING to divert the discussion away from enacting common sense gun laws, because they know they don't have a leg to stand on.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Hrw-500 View Post
It could had been interesting to add Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, Newark, New Orleans, Washington DC stats to compare.
Homicides are down 50% nationwide, places with strict laws and loose laws alike.

Detroit? In 2015, Detroit had its lowest number of criminal homicides in 40 years.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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The problem is people like you who take NO action are in several ways complicit in these mass slaughters. You bring up unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence and call those who just want someone who is mentally ill not have a gun so their child wont die in school a "extremest".
There's also the problem of folks who taked action but the wrong way. In 1989, during the Polytechnique tragedy in Montreal, the police arrived but they did nothing due to an order of the chief of police while Marc Lépine continued to shot. That video is in French, there's some English subtitles available but the translation accuracy is more or less reliable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5w2tcfcsyU
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:18 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You are missing the point. You might as well argue that increase in milk consumption caused homicides to decline. More milk=less crime.
BS. I posted a direct comparison between GUN ownership and GUN crimes. More guns = less crime. Milk consumption isn't used as a weapon in gun crimes.

Just look at the foolish lengths to which anti-2Aers will go to strip Americans of their Constitutional Rights. You should be ashamed.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:20 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The problem is people like you who take NO action are in several ways complicit in these mass slaughters. You bring up unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence and call those, who just want someone who is mentally ill not have a gun so their child wont die in school, a "extremest".
Actually, I posted factual evidence, which no one has been able to dispute: More guns = less gun crimes.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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BS. I posted a direct comparison between GUN ownership and GUN crimes. More guns = less crime. Milk consumption isn't used as a weapon in gun crimes.
Again. There is NOTHING to prove increase in guns caused the murders to go down. Period.

You insist it is so, and even call it a "fact", but there is no evidence whatsoever.

Feel free to believe anything you want.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Actually, I posted factual evidence, which no one has been able to dispute: More guns = less gun crimes.
That's not true. Stop lying. It's pathetic.
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