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View Poll Results: Is online pornography obscene or decent?
Obscene 8 33.33%
Decent 16 66.67%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-18-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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It is worse than prostitution because it is publicly available to anyone with internet access, including children and adolescents. Prostitution takes effort and willful consent, something children and adolescents lack.

And yes i think all online pornography should be stopped.
Even an extreme conservative would usually just suggest that it perhaps be harder to get to - i.e. behind either a paywall or similar.

The odds of "stopping porn" when the vast majority of pols and powerful people are probably watching regularly - are about zero.

One article I read said many developing nations are about to make their decisions about the internet. They can either buy the whole ball of wax from China (full use of the net for business and most everything else except what the leaders don't want too much of).....or, they can follow the USA and European model which are largely "do what you want".

So there will be plenty of countries where you can visit or move that have no online porn.

 
Old 02-18-2018, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Norwood, Massachusetts
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So if pornography is protected by the first amendment and is a victimless thing, according to insane liberal progressives, then the ownership of firearms should not be restricted in any way and fully protected under the second amendment.
Not sure I agree with the bolded - I always thought of defense of pornography as something outside the political divide. Both sides realize the slippery slope that comes from abridging free speech.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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I am arguing the insane double standard thinking of progressives who wish to interpret the constitution as they see fit and not how it was intended.

Free online access available to anyone with a computer and Internet access to online pornography is clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL because it is clearly OBSCENE.

Only a scumbag would thing otherwise.
I think you are the first person I've heard to argue that pornography is unconstitutional. The idea is totally ludicrous.
The word obscenity is mentioned no where in the constitution. There is no such thing as a constitutional right to be free of obscenity.
Your confidence in your position given how absurd it is even more ludicrous.

As to whether the regulation of pornography is constitutional. By the literal words in the constitution probably not. However it doesn't bother me that it's regulated to some extent. That regulation should be weighed against the encroachment of freedom on others, harm caused by the issue and also the private ability to prevent such arm without government intervention.
There is of note there is substantial ability of people to avoid such harm(which is mostly exposure to children).
Since you brought up guns, your stance is much more hypocritical, because a) guns are more harmful and b) much more difficult to avoid harm on your own

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Old 02-18-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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So if pornography is protected by the first amendment and is a victimless thing, according to insane liberal progressives, then the ownership of firearms should not be restricted in any way and fully protected under the second amendment. After all, firearms are not hurting anyone on their own, irresponsible people are. To say that online pornography, violent video games and sleazy TV shows and movies are not harming the mental sate of adolescents in any way is seriously ignorant.

The thing with pornography is that it is easily accessible to most people of any age with the abity to access and use a computer or smart-phone. There are many moronic parents who let their minor children have unrestricted access to the internet via giving them smart phones and computers.

The same moronic parents let their minor children play violent video games and watch sleazy and violent TV shows and movies, not caring about the consequences because they are ignorant scumbags.

Newsflash: This little girl is not an "insane, liberal progressive." Whether or not I like it, adult porn is "protected."

And I have to tell you, people's rights don't end when there's an unsupervised kid in the room.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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It's obscenely decent.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 03:28 PM
 
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The first amendment is supposed to protect freedom of speech but also protect the public from obscenity which means that obscene material is not protected by the first amendment.

The pornography industry has been given protection to peddle very obscene smut online apparently under the guise of being protected under the first amendment.

How can online pornography be considered decent and not obscene? Why is there no resistance on a large scale to the peddling of this depraved behavior?

To quote from the included link to a relevant article:

"The Supreme Court squarely confronted the obscenity question in Roth v. United States (1957), a case contesting the constitutionality of a federal law prohibiting the mailing of any material that is “obscene, lewd, lascivious, or filthy . . . or other publication of an indecent character.” The Court, in an opinion drafted by Justice William J. Brennan Jr., determined that “obscenity is not within the area of constitutionally protected speech or press.” He articulated a new test for obscenity: “whether to the average person, applying contemporary community standards, the dominant theme of the material taken as a whole appeals to the prurient interest.”

https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/art...nd-pornography

If the public and population at large do not seem to have a problem with the problem of online porn which is being consumed rampantly by young adolescents because of their easy access to it then the population must be a very obscene, depraved and apathetic bunch indeed.
Does this include the porn that trump was in,the pics Melania took and the actress trumps lawyer paid off,you mean that Porn???
 
Old 02-18-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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Hey! Don't take away my Porn.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 04:47 PM
 
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What's wrong with prostitution?
That's about like asking me what's wrong with having people under 18 in porn, or what's wrong with hiring illegal aliens. It's illegal. We should enforce our laws evenly lest we're a banana republic.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 04:48 PM
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Location: Bran's tree
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Are they mutually consenting human adults? Then I'm fine with it.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 04:58 PM
 
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Are they mutually consenting human adults? Then I'm fine with it.
Obviously adults can't legally consent to do just anything they want .
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