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Old 02-19-2018, 05:55 AM
 
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Have you ever known anyone who was truly, seriously mentally ill, to the point of having no contact with reality unless medicated?

Years ago, I lived in an old house that had been divided into apartments. One of the upstairs units was occupied by a couple, a man and woman who had both been diagnosed with schizophrenia. I liked both of them very much, until the day she quit her meds. At that point, she threw their cat down the stairs after trying to stab it because she thought it was possessed by the devil and wanted to kill them. When he tried to protect the cat, she attacked him, as well. This is not a story he told me, it's something I know about because I heard the entire screamed conversation.

You think someone that unhinged should have a gun?
this has nothing to do with the right of perfectly sane people to own a weapon of any sort.

 
Old 02-19-2018, 05:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Oh, not so sure about that. implementing very heavy yearly taxes on certain type weapons along with an even heavier fine if the taxes are not paid might solve a lot of the problem. Or substitute insurance for taxes. Either of those possibilities would make owning say an AR-15 a very expensive hobby.
Your gubmint doesn't even know where most guns are, especially the one that scares you the most, so how are you going to tax what you don't know exists?
 
Old 02-19-2018, 05:57 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Second amendment isnt about hunting or proving need.
That^^^. In addition. You will NEVER be able to beat gun culture in the US. Too many people at drink and breathe guns.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 05:59 AM
 
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The "yelling fire in a crowed theater" analogy is a red herring fallacy.

Because that type of restriction on speech does not ban what you can say, only how and where you can say it.

It doesn't ban the word "fire" altogether..... you can stand on your own property and scream fire at the top of your lungs if you want.
You can scream it in a theater if you want to also. It is not illegal.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 05:59 AM
 
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There were lots of affordable surplus semi automatic rifles and pistols available after World War 2 and Korea and Viet Namh. But mass shootings were relatively few, less than that actually. So if the guns were available then, what's changed? Are we over medicated? Maybe our schools aren't doing their jobs anymore. Maybe families have failed. Could it be violent TV and movies? War pictures, crime dramas and westerns have been around forever, so it probably isn't that. Could it be violent music? Maybe its that not enough people are going to church? Society is ill and gun violence is a symptom.
But we keep hitting the same stumbling block and that is that the government just is not able to fix it. At best they're well meaning idiots who would make it worse or try to fix the wrong thing, at worst they are probably actively trying to make things worse for their own ends. Forget that they won't do anything, be glad they don't.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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Revolvers are not classified as semi-automatic.
They are semi automatic. I don't know your definition but a semi auto is simply a weapon that you can fire multiple times without reloading by pulling the trigger each time.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Oh, not so sure about that. implementing very heavy yearly taxes on certain type weapons along with an even heavier fine if the taxes are not paid might solve a lot of the problem. Or substitute insurance for taxes. Either of those possibilities would make owning say an AR-15 a very expensive hobby.
The Supreme court has already ruled that scemes like this are unconstitutional, You don't get to do an end run around the Bill of Rights.
Does the pole tax sound familiar.

RR
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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They are not classified as semi-auto, because the concept it not same. A semi-auto uses the recoil to eject the casing, and load the new round into the chamber.
I know how a semi works.....some don't use "recoil" BTW, they use the spent gasses to drive the bolt.

But how it's classified is irrelevant.

How it works......1 shot per trigger pull...... isn't.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The nation would be better off if we could have a reasonable discussion about the issue, and it seems to me that the OP is trying to initiate one.


Suggesting banning half the guns currently already owned by Americans by what type of gun they are isn't what most people would define as "reasonable".
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:09 AM
 
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Are you actually telling me that you think that the right to shoot gun is equivalent to the right to speak?????
What? What do you think? It's the Bill of Rights. So yeah..... the right to own a gun is a right just like religious expression, free speech, free press and peaceful assembly and the right to petition. Of course they're equivalent.
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