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Old 02-19-2018, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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We in the big picture.
I believe the Congress will be forced to do something, but obviously no one knows that they will come up with.

 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: The Ozone Layer, apparently...
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But that concept is a prehistoric concept. It belongs to the 15th Century.
Today we have the National Guard, Army, Air Force and Navy.
Do you think million of citizens will march to Washington DC armed with guns and rifles to defend the White House? or to overthrow the President?
To overthrow the president? No, I dont think that will ever happen.

Do I think a local community will stand together in front of their homes and town to protect their property from gangs and terrorists? Yes.

Unless the National Guard, Army, Air Force, or even the local police are camped on your lawn, any assistance you need will take time to deploy and arrive. Hardly a prehistoric concept.

What belongs in the 15th century is what was in the 15th century - your not being allowed a weapon.

Remember the Alamo! The help they so desperately needed never arrived. The only thing good about it was that they slowed Santa Ana down so he could be caught up with at San Jacinto. Its quite possible that Texas would be in Mexico today if everyone simply ran North.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Now, define "mentally ill".
Start with anyone convicted of assault would be a good start.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Just a suggestion. And the laws can change - blink of an eye.

Sooner than expected, there will be changes. Maybe insurance rather than a tax? Not a burden at all to do such, it just becomes more expensive.
Still not clear about how our government works, I see.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Gun ownership should require registration, background checks, some demonstrate that you are able to handle the gun, and insurance.

Just like vehicles.
But do we require that for voting?

Do we require that for any other right?

Remember, these are rights as listed in the Constitution but having a car is not in the Constitution.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:48 AM
 
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Gun ownership should require registration, background checks, some demonstrate that you are able to handle the gun, and insurance.

Just like vehicles.
Vehicles aren't protected by our Constitution.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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Start with anyone convicted of assault would be a good start.
Had any of the recent school shooters been convicted of assault? I don't think so. Which is why any "solution" brought forth by the gun grabbers is seen for what it is - knee jerk with no thought as to the true result of the action.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Vehicles aren't protected by our Constitution.
The Constitution is a living document it can (and has been) changed many times by congress. It is probably safe to say the founding fathers didn't write a firearm protection clause to protect teenagers rights to gun down schoolchildren with an assault weapon.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:54 AM
 
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I believe the Congress will be forced to do something, but obviously no one knows that they will come up with.
It's really not up to Congress. It's up to the courts unless we can pass a Constitutional Amendment which we won't.
 
Old 02-19-2018, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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The Constitution is a living document it can (and has been) changed many times by congress. It is probably safe to say the founding fathers didn't write a firearm protection clause to protect teenagers rights to gun down schoolchildren with an assault weapon.
Once again, the AR-15 is not an assault weapon.

An assault weapon is capable of select fire and the -15 does not have that.

The founding fathers did probably realize how far guns could go because this thing, among others, had been around for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun
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