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Old 02-18-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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With all the outrage over the AR right now, I'm amused that this poster left .223 off his list. Haha.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Besides creating a black market as mentioned, others will take up re-loading.
I've been reloading for as long as I can remember. CA thought they could do this and so far it is FAIL in all capital letter.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yes, by banning ammunition one could implement stricter gun control without violating/changing the constitution. Let people have their guns, but without ammunition

The Swiss have such a law...
Sounds like a plan. Didn't Chris Rock do some kind of stand up about charging $5000 for bullets?
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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With all the outrage over the AR right now, I'm amused that this poster left .223 off his list. Haha.
These clowns don't know anything about firearms. Much the less the fact bans do squat. Let them stay busy. Millions of people reload. I can get a thousand rounds out of 5 lbs of powder, of which, I have plenty.

I also cast boolits and more primers and brass than I'll need in my life time. This will all be handed down to my kids. Currently I have reloading classes for FREE for anyone that wants to learn. You can get a pocket reloader for dirt cheap and in all reality, it's all you need.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Well well well, looky here Amazon has a complete line up of reloading supplies.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...=2AA8CY9235HI6

Look, those of us from California, and New York have been dealing with this stupid crap for as long as I can remember.

Quit focusing on the tools of the criminals and more on the criminals. We legal firearm owners have had to find legal work arounds so we can do simple things like hunting and self defense. But hey, if you all want to go there we have a big head start.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Sounds like a plan. Didn't Chris Rock do some kind of stand up about charging $5000 for bullets?
Sure is going to expensive to supply the military and police depts.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sounds like a plan. Didn't Chris Rock do some kind of stand up about charging $5000 for bullets?

Someone with armed guards, that's lovely. Who cares what this guy thinks. Another celeb out of touch with actual society.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:48 PM
 
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Yes, by banning ammunition one could implement stricter gun control without violating/changing the constitution. Let people have their guns, but without ammunition

The Swiss have such a law...
Infantile suggestion. It would still violate the constitution. The arms are inclusive of the ammunition required for the arms....they are not arms unless they are functional and capable of being used. It wouldn't be any different than saying you can have the gun but nobody can have a trigger, or you can have cars but no engines.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If the intent was to eliminate mass shootings, then why not restrict/ban certain ammunitions?

The military style assault weapons all use what's known as "intermediate cartridge" which are designed for automatic, self-loading firearms. There have been ASW bans, but they were ineffective. The banned/restricted ammunitions also have an effect of dwindling inventory over time. Of course banning is banning civilian use, military use would be unaffected. The second amendment did not mention what types of firearms and/or ammunitions, it's hard to argue right infringement.

Here's list of "intermediate cartridges", aka "service cartridges" in the world:

5.45×39mm cartridge of the AK-74 assault rifle
5.56×45mm NATO cartridge of the M16 assault rifle
5.8×42mm cartridge of the QBZ-95 assault rifle
7.62×39mm cartridge of the AK-47 assault rifle
7.62×45mm cartridge of the vz. 52 semi-automatic rifle
7.92×33mm Kurz cartridge of the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_cartridge

Like they have not tried that.
Supreme Court already ruled that Unconstitutional.

It is an infringement on an individuals right to Keep & Bear Arms.
The cartridge is a part of the Keep & Bear. Without it there is no keep & bear.


The founders were all knowledgeable.
They knew our government would eventually come after the guns.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Brass could be swept away, reload could also be outlawed ... the thing about ammo is, it can dwindle out once banned.
Right, just like the supplies of cocaine, heroine, meth etc have dwindled. Just like the supplies of alcohol dwindled in the 20's. Banning something people want doesn't work. People like you just can't grasp that everyone in the country doesn't think the way you do.

At least 8 states have passed laws voiding more federal gun control laws and 30+ have introduced similar laws. You think they wouldn't do the same thing if you tried to ban one of the most popular rifle calibers?

Just them of them as Sanctuary States for Americans like liberals have setup for illegals.
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