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Old 02-23-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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OH?

And she's a SAHM.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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OP I take it you're in support then of universal health care and free college? If you want women to return to this role, something has to be done about health care and education costs.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Where rhotic consonants are either absent or intrusive
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You missed my point.

My point is: Men contribute in lots of ways. Women contribute in lots of ways.

Most feminists do not recognize any contributions from their husbands other than housework.

I know a women who b---ches that her hubby never helps out at home. He leaves the house at 5:50 am and gets home about 8pm every night with a mid-6 figure salary.

But it's not enough. Because he doesn't do the dishes. She's a feminist. So unless he does housework, he doesn't contribute.
Mr.Mathlete and I are both feminists. Neither one of us gives two figs about who does what around the house; we both do what needs to be done, and subcontract out the rest to the kids.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:33 AM
 
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Mr.Mathlete and I are both feminists. Neither one of us gives two figs about who does what around the house; we both do what needs to be done, and subcontract out the rest to the kids.
Great recipe for a happy marriage, but not one that would be necessarily supported by feminists.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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OP I take it you're in support then of universal health care and free college? If you want women to return to this role, something has to be done about health care and education costs.
Health insurance and paying for college are personal choices and personal responsibilities that have zero to do with the topic of this thread.

Do you want me -- or anyone else -- to dictate your personal choices and personal responsibilities?
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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nah. women who use the "afraid of strong women" argument are those who use it as an excuse to treat other men like s**t


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Men who are afraid of strong women have serious mommy issues.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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You missed my point.

My point is: Men contribute in lots of ways. Women contribute in lots of ways.

Most feminists do not recognize any contributions from their husbands other than housework.

I know a women who b---ches that her hubby never helps out at home. He leaves the house at 5:50 am and gets home about 8pm every night with a mid-6 figure salary.

But it's not enough. Because he doesn't do the dishes. She's a feminist. So unless he does housework, he doesn't contribute.
Are you extrapolating anecdata from your one example, or do you have something to show that indicates “most” feminists only value housework and not all the other contributions?
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Careful here. The commentary about whether social media might be the cause is not from McManus and it isn't part of the NHS study. This is speculation by someone else unrelated to the study or its author.

As for the women's movement being the cause, the findings are discussed in the Stevenson and Wolfers meta-analysis.
So why post a link to the commentary? Where is the NHS study, where is the link to Stevenson and Wolfers meta-analysis. Yeah.
Not that I take the "studies" you post with anything but a grain of salt.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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Are you extrapolating anecdata from your one example, or do you have something to show that indicates “most” feminists only value housework and not all the other contributions?
What other arguments do feminists have about their male partners in the household? It's been a very common argument for the last 2 decades. That is not debatable and acknowldeged by pretty much ... everyone.

Not sure what YOUR point is. You disagree that housework is not an issue for feminists? You're in a very very very small minority. Or are there other reasons feminists hates their husbands that haven't been publicized as much?
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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nah. women who use the "afraid of strong women" argument are those who use it as an excuse to treat other men like s**t
I have found this to be true. It is a way to shut down any form of conversation. As if saying someone is a strong women means she is automatically RIGHT and the man is automatically WRONG.
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