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Old 03-01-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Good, and if enough men do like me domineering, complaining and nagging feminist would shape up or be left alone with their cats.
ROFLMAO So what's to miss? Catering to you?

As I said, men like you are narcissist. Look it up.... Overinflated feelings of self worth, behaves as if he is entitled, expectations of getting special treatment, and if for any reason his demands are not meet, then he becomes enraged. He appears or behaves in an arrogant, haughty, or condescending way towards people. Acts like a petulant child when doesn't get what he wants.


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Old 03-01-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Every year Melinda and Bill Gates, write a letter outlining their philanthropic priorities. This year, she devoted her portion of the letter to the burdens of unpaid work on women. Melinda and Bill Gates - Time Poverty

Melinda Gates explains why 'time poverty' is one of the biggest challenges of the modern era - Business Insider

All over the world, women are doing work they're not getting paid for. In rich countries, it might be folding the laundry or staying home to take care of a sick child. In developing countries, unpaid labor tends to be more physically arduous, like hauling water and chopping wood. Wherever you are, it's considered women's work.

Women today will spend hundreds of thousands more hours than boys doing unpaid work simply because society assumes it's their responsibility. According to the OECD and other sources, women devote more time than men to chores in nearly every country. American women spend more than two hours daily on chores, compared to just 82 minutes for men.


"It ends up robbing women of their potential," Gates said. "This is a societal issue that in 2016 shouldn't exist anymore."


I saw an eye opening report on how mothersin third world countries spend most of their time gathering fuel to cook the family’s food, or walking long distances to get water. These things should not happen.
Folks likes the Gates and others are working to provide solutions, such as solar stoves and wells.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Do you live in a dump? It seems to need an awful lot of house repairs
Right?

Housework is a daily thing- or at least it should be for most.

In the 5 years that we have lived in our house, my hubby has got on the roof twice total, to repair some shingles... both within 10 minutes. He has also replaced 2 ceiling fans at about an hour a piece. Everything else, we've had to get a professional for.

As for yard work, that is a shared task. In warmer months, maybe an hour a week between the two of us.

I'm the one who does any decor changes, painting, etc.

Overall, I spend more time doing housework in one day, than hubby has spent repairing the house in 5 years. I'm not saying that because I'm bitter... But I just find mtl1's assertion that house repairs are a bigger responsibility than housework to be amusing.

Mtl1: I'm sure there is the perfect girl out there for you... But when you meet her, do not diminish the importance of housework or try to compare occasional repairs to it. Praise her for accepting the responsibility of looking after your house for you and continue to be thankful to her for it.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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Good, and if enough men do like me domineering, complaining and nagging feminist would shape up or be left alone with their cats.
Except rational and intelligent men don’t think like you do. 1950 is gone and it’s not coming back. Maybe you should look into getting a cat............
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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I am from the era when a woman’s place was in the home, and the man was the breadwinner. In many cases, this worked fine.
Fast forward to now. Women have choices, which is great. If their family decides that someone should stay home and raise the kids, either the mother or the dad, then nobody should look down on them for doing so.
If I’m a kid, I want my mom or dad to be home to take care of me.
If you've read the thread you would know that nobody is looking down on them. This thread is about when both men and women work outside the home to bring money in to support the household. This takes stress off the men but chauvinistic men who refuse to pull their weight at home.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Right?

Housework is a daily thing- or at least it should be for most.

In the 5 years that we have lived in our house, my hubby has got on the roof twice total, to repair some shingles... both within 10 minutes. He has also replaced 2 ceiling fans at about an hour a piece. Everything else, we've had to get a professional for.

As for yard work, that is a shared task. In warmer months, maybe an hour a week between the two of us.

I'm the one who does any decor changes, painting, etc.

Overall, I spend more time doing housework in one day, than hubby has spent repairing the house in 5 years. I'm not saying that because I'm bitter... But I just find mtl1's assertion that house repairs are a bigger responsibility than housework to be amusing.

Mtl1: I'm sure there is the perfect girl out there for you... But when you meet her, do not diminish the importance of housework or try to compare occasional repairs to it. Praise her for accepting the responsibility of looking after your house for you and continue to be thankful to her for it.
Back when we were first married and we fought about housework he tried using "well I cut the grass". Yea, we live in the north where the grass grows max 3 months out of the year, it's too cold and we get harsh winters that never end. He actually believed that it was comparative. That's part of the problem. ... because they don't do it they think they are the expert at knowing what is involved.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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Good, and if enough men do like me domineering, complaining and nagging feminist would shape up or be left alone with their cats.




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Old 03-01-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Back when we were first married and we fought about housework he tried using "well I cut the grass". Yea, we live in the north where the grass grows max 3 months out of the year, it's too cold and we get harsh winters that never end. He actually believed that it was comparative. That's part of the problem. ... because they don't do it they think they are the expert at knowing what is involved.
I've been married twice- the first time for 2 years, this time for 7. My first husband wouldn't even mow the lawn. Actually I'm not sure he even knew how to start it!

By the time my 2nd husband and I moved in together (about a year before we married), the fact that he mowed the lawn and did my car maintenance for me made him seem positively helpful in comparison!

Because I don't work now, I'm fine with doing the housework. However, if/ when I do go back, when the kids are older, I think I would expect him to share the household chores more than he currently does.
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Old 03-01-2018, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Where rhotic consonants are either absent or intrusive
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Back when we were first married and we fought about housework he tried using "well I cut the grass". Yea, we live in the north where the grass grows max 3 months out of the year, it's too cold and we get harsh winters that never end. He actually believed that it was comparative. That's part of the problem. ... because they don't do it they think they are the expert at knowing what is involved.
Yeah, we live in an apartment building; there is no yard work and the super does all of the repair work.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Menial labor?

Complex accounting; bookkeeping; tax planning and preparation; handling investments; understanding and processing medical dental, vision insurance, researching finding and buying the best products, negotiating and enforcing contracts, providing medical, education, psychological, nutritional and physical care for the kids and spouse, complex scheduling, performing at least minor repairs on the home, and all sorts of other things (bikes, flashlights, toys, cars, etc), selecting banks, doctors, schools, a plumber, electrician, mechanic, phone, cable,internet, cellular providers, veterinarian.. . . Planning vacations, events both hosted and outside. Addressing security issues.

I am sure I am missing a lot of things.

That job is likely more complex than mine was and I had/have one of the more complex jobs.

Yes there is some grunge work involved too. There is in my job as well. (Sometimes I even have to make coffee)
LOL. Not to downplay running a household but that is extreme embellishment. And not at all what I was talking about.
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