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Old 02-18-2018, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Everyone wants to blame guns, music, movies and games. Anything but the person SHOOTING the gun.


Nor does anyone want to admit most of these people had/have mental issues that were not addressed early in life. But carry on.
Wow! You complain about everyone blaming "anything but the person shooting the gun" and then turn around and blame it on mental illness. Mental illness alone does not make non-violent people suddenly turn violent.

But, never mind. I give up. Let's just round all the mentally ill people up and send them to GitMo. When can I expect my government escort?
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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If you need fear of going to hell to understand it's wrong to take a life then that's just really sad.

That is the point they were trying to make. A lot of kids today grow up in one parent homes, have no one there to teach them right from wrong, and all they see around them is turmoil. Not like when a lot of us grew up, dad worked, mom had a snack when we got home from school, and we had strong role models.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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My sons play video games, they also served 4 and 7 years in the Navy with one returning to active duty soon. Guess what many of those soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines are doing on their down time? Playing video games. It is more about anger management, never taught the ability to respond appropriately to adverse situations, and lack of coping skills than anything else.

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Old 02-19-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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That is the point they were trying to make. A lot of kids today grow up in one parent homes, have no one there to teach them right from wrong, and all they see around them is turmoil. Not like when a lot of us grew up, dad worked, mom had a snack when we got home from school, and we had strong role models.
Sorry, but that kind of Ozzie and Harriet life, to the extent it ever existed, hasn't been around for decades. And didn't even exist then, because hey, look, Harriet Nelson was a working parent!!

And single parents are quite capable of teaching their children right from wrong. Apparently, they may also be the only ones who are capable of teaching their children tolerance and a lack of stereotyped bigotry and prejudice too.
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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If you look over the last 15 years Violent video games have become more and more popular and much more realistic then the old days of DOOM other first person shooter games. I have to say seems like today lot of younger people are playing these games with brains that are not fully developed to understand the repercussion of what they are doing. These games are now lot like actual training for military and police use to simulate combat building their skills in killing. If you take a younger person who is depressed plays these video games all day they create a world in their mind where mass shooting seems normal the kid shot up Sandy Hook.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/...-kentucky-gov/

Add to that movies depicting the same, and tv shows as well...
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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There is absolutely no question that you are correct about this. Kids sit mindlessly and play these "war and shoot em up" video games and it causes them to thing shooting real people is just the same.

If it is fun to blow up and kill virtual people, think how much fun it must be to do the real thing.

Except that it is factually incorrect. The OP states games like DOOM (created in 1993) were not a problem. Go ahead and count the number of school shootings in the 1990's after 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School...d_States#1990s
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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If you look over the last 15 years Violent video games have become more and more popular and much more realistic then the old days of DOOM other first person shooter games. I have to say seems like today lot of younger people are playing these games with brains that are not fully developed to understand the repercussion of what they are doing. These games are now lot like actual training for military and police use to simulate combat building their skills in killing. If you take a younger person who is depressed plays these video games all day they create a world in their mind where mass shooting seems normal the kid shot up Sandy Hook.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/...-kentucky-gov/
As others pointed out, you must be reading the wrong article.

I was the depresssed teen that played way too many violent video games. Far more than any of my friends.

I've never had a violent inkling in me towards any living person. I've always been the mediator. I've killed animals and ate them, was more something my dad wanted to get me into though.

None of those friends I played them with were violent.

My dad also removed the pins from the guns so nobody could use them without him knowing.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Reason 1:
Lousy parenting.

Reason 2:
Lousy firearms legislation.

Of course that kind of talk is political suicide....
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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You post a link, then show support towards what you believed the link said, then get shown the error of your ways, then post that you really didn’t read the link.

Good Christ...
Welcome to open forum 101.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:28 PM
 
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I've been watching ultra violent movies since I was a little kid, and playing ultra violet games throughout my gaming life.

I never thought to use a gun to massacre people.

Why is that?

It's always easy to blame mental illness, video games, movies, politicians, etc.

The fact is these shooters are symptomatic of the kind of society we have become. A bunch of alienated losers who feel that society has passed them by, that they no longer have the 'respect' and attention they deserve. So in order to get their 15 minutes of (in)famy, they look to other mass shooters as 'inspiration.' They decide to engage in the most heinous, shocking acts imaginable, to strike fear into the hearts of the public. And what 'better' way than to gun down hordes of people at 'safe' zones such as schools. And in doing so, they finally get the attention that they crave, they finally feel 'important' as their name is all over the media.

Won't be long before we read of another mass shooting by some moron with a grudge (and of course the obligatory social media selfies with various guns and rifles, the manifesto about how wronged by society the shooter was, and multiple folk expressing how shocked they were, yada yada yada).

Lather, rinse, and repeat.
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