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Old 02-19-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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170 members of the non-partisan American Political Science Associationís Presidents and Executive Politics were surveyed... It's made up of Republicans and Democrats, even the Republicans voted him poorly so keep on pretending the ranking doesn't mean squat.
It just means that academics have a pronounced bias to the Left, and their bias precludes objectivity. You can be a Republican and a Leftist, like George Bush for instance.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:06 PM
 
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OK so I guess you consider a 30% stock market rise, to be a failure.
Got it.

It's not the only thing -- obviously - that a president should be measured on -- but it's a pretty strong indicator that some things are going right.
You mean I should give him credit for what Obama did? And should praise his removing of regulations meant to avoid another Great Depression and tax cuts that enriches corporations & the rich and add trillions more to our deficit?... How short-sighted....
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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"Trump doesn't get much of a lift from Republican-only vote: Even in their eyes, he’s a bottom-five president.
Those “Republicans” in academia are mostly rinos.

You do understand that, don’t you?
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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No other president has faced the all out war waged by lies and magnified by a media turned propaganda machine supported by weaponized federal agencies left over the previous most corrupt administration in US history.


Trump appears as a super hero, hardly the worst.


the same people who predicted trump would never be the repub candidate, let alone president. In a race against a favored winner about to be coronated instead of elected, have again stepped up to demonstrate their lack of familiarity \ with reality.


the article is pure propaganda for those who missed be held behind the iron curtain where propaganda was used to suppress freedom.



Please list exactly what those "lies" are.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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No it isn't. Liberal "scholars" ranked Trump the worst president ever before he was even sworn in. This means nothing.
The comparable action during Obama's term, albeit going the other way, was when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize when he was three weeks into his first term of office.

You really cannot make this stuff up.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yup. Who gives a flying eff what lefty scholars think about Trump.
Trump cares ! Bigly!...especially when he finds out Obama is ahead of him !

This is the sort of thing to send him into a Twitter rage or shoot a missile at North Korea.

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Old 02-19-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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As someone who views Obama positively, 8th is too high for him.

Perhaps if congress didn't spend most of the time blocking him, and we an jobs/infrastructure program, gun control legislation, Cuban embargo ended, Immigration reform etc, then perhaps he's top 10 then.

But Obama legislatively was quite an ordinary president in many ways, his foreign policy except for the Iran deal was forgettable.
Maybe they're just talking about just his first year.

Presidents have to deal with opposition. Just part of the terrain.
I think that if Obama had known there was going to be a 2010 massacre he wouldn't have been so eager to boldly announce he had a mandate and would go it alone as it set a tone for that relationship.

I personally liked Obama, I voted for him in 2008. I think he'd have been better with a little more experience though. My only major disappointment with him was that in terms of Afghanistan, Iraq etc....it was hard to tell Bush 2 had left office.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:09 PM
 
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The comparable action during Obama's term, albeit going the other way, was when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize when he was three weeks into his first term of office.

You really cannot make this stuff up.
Or when presidential historian Michael Beschloss declared Obama perhaps the smartest president we’ve ever had after a dinner with him. Take that Thomas Jefferson!
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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Trump’s first year was seen as a catastrophe by both Democrats and Republicans in the field of political science. Marked by a nonstop stream of scandals, as well as record-low approval ratings, it was so bad that a survey of scholars has already ranked Trump as the worst president ever.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/tru...resident-ever/
He is far worse than even Grant (previous all-time winner of the "I suck as President" award) whom by the way was also a Republican, and far worse than Nixon whom likewise was a Republican.

What is it about the Republican party which encourages and enables these losers?
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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He is far worse than even Grant (previous all-time winner of the "I suck as President" award) whom by the way was also a Republican, and far worse than Nixon whom likewise was a Republican.

What is it about the Republican party which encourages and enables these losers?
Lol...that ought to be a good amount of gasoline to add to this tire fire of a thread.
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