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Old 10-19-2018, 12:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why do our officials keep trying to recycles old "gun control" laws that didn't work the first three times they were tried?

Isn't it time we looked into what HAS reduced the murder rate, or gun deaths, or whatever, and try some of those things instead?
The big-govt gun controllers sure become quiet when those questions are asked.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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For years now, every time there is a horrific shooting, the same people instantly react, calling for gun bans, increased background checks, waiting periods, and other programs. Invariably some of them get enacted, and the rate of shootings, murders, etc. keep right on going, with no reduction (and sometimes they increase).

And just as inevitably, soon there is another horrific mass shooting or three. And the same people start in with the same demands: More schemes that have failed in the past... along with blaming government for failing to do enough.

Well, in one way they are right. In giving in to these terrified hysterics and enacting their programs, the govt is wasting its time, passing useless programs instead of things that actually work, and our children keep dying.

When will they finally stop listening to the hysterics whose programs let the killers keep right on killing? When will they finally get around to trying things that have actually worked in the past?

Posting armed guards at every school, in cooperation with local police departments who know the area and know how may guards would be needed to really make a difference, has worked. It's expensive, but are our children's lives not worth the extra expense?

Or we could allow for guards of a different, and far more numerous, nature: Obey the 2nd amendment for a change, and let any law-abiding adult who wants to, carry. A teacher if they want, a deliveryman at the school, a janitor, somebody walking their dog past the campus, plus many other such.

If the 2nd amendment were fully obeyed, most people still wouldn't bother carrying... but some would. And some demented thug who wants to shoot up a school and get tons of headlines after he's dead, would know that there's probably someone nearby with a gun who knows how to use it. So he probably won't be able to rack up the huge body count he's hoping for. And maybe some of them will decide not to do it in the first place. Presto, a reduction in shootings, without a shot being fired.

Why do the horrified spectators always call for "solutions" that have failed already? And why does the govt listen to them, and let the killings go on without restraint? Isn't it time they listened to those whose solutions are already proven to work instead?

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Old 10-19-2018, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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With gun grabbing Liberals there is no common sense, just pure emotional lunacy. Its really difficult for them to grasp the fact that killers simply dont care about laws. I mean, how hard is that to understand? Their common sense gun law as seen on CNN's town hall (fruitless debate) just last night is to ban all semi automatic weapons, thus technically wanting to eliminate Americans 2nd amendment right.

If gun laws worked so well, secret service wouldn't have the need to protect the President/ politicians, and banks wouldn't have the need to install 3" ballistic glass, and there would be no need for TSA in airports.
So do you arm yourself with a gun when you leave your home to deal with the armed criminals who don't care that there are laws against murder? If not, why not?
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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So do you arm yourself with a gun when you leave your home to deal with the armed criminals who don't care that there are laws against murder? If not, why not?
You can't carry a loaded gun in a car in many states, such as California.

That law doesn't restrict criminals, of course. It only affects the law-abiding, like the people you're addressing your question to.

Back to the subject:
Why do our officials keep trying to recycle old "gun control" laws that didn't work all the previous time(s) they were tried?

Isn't it time we looked into what HAS reduced the murder rate, or gun deaths, or whatever, and try some of those things instead?
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Old 10-19-2018, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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not until they get their agenda passed, which is in fact a total gun ban in the US.
Which won't ban all guns. Just the ones owned by the law-abiding. Who aren't the ones causing the problem.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:03 AM
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Location: On the Border
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Which won't ban all guns. Just the ones owned by the law-abiding. Who aren't the ones causing the problem.
I don't know one single liberal who wants to ban all guns. There are a few on the national level that represent very liberal places, but they don't now and will never have enough people on their side to come anywhere close to achieving that.

I'm a liberal and I have a bunch of guns. No one I've voted for ever wanted to take them away. It's a boogieman you guys create yourselves and then wet your pants over your own irrational fear. I almost feel sorry for you. What's it like to go to bed so fearful every night? And what happened to you in your childhood that makes you so gullible to fear based propaganda?
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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I don't know one single liberal who wants to ban all guns. There are a few on the national level that represent very liberal places, but they don't now and will never have enough people on their side to come anywhere close to achieving that.

I'm a liberal and I have a bunch of guns. No one I've voted for ever wanted to take them away. It's a boogieman you guys create yourselves and then wet your pants over your own irrational fear. I almost feel sorry for you. What's it like to go to bed so fearful every night? And what happened to you in your childhood that makes you so gullible to fear based propaganda?
Pelosi said in front of congress that if she could, she would ban all guns. She is a liberal.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:31 AM
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Location: On the Border
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Pelosi said in front of congress that if she could, she would ban all guns. She is a liberal.
...who represents a very far left place and will never have enough people on her side to get it done. Like I said.

She knows this, I'm sure, but the voters in her district want to hear different and so she says it to get elected. You know, how politicians do and the most likely in form or fashion the ones you voted for have done the same exact thing on one issue or another. Doesn't mean I'm any more scared of the implausible and terrible things that some far right wing nut jobs say to get elected either.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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If only Thomas Paine were alive to address common sense.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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...who represents a very far left place and will never have enough people on her side to get it done. Like I said.
So it's not that you "don't know a single liberal who wants to ban guns".

You are simply willing to make excuses for those who do.
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