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Old 02-22-2018, 01:17 AM
 
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No response from the "gun control" pushers? Why not? You DO want to reduce shootings, murders etc., don't you?
not until they get their agenda passed, which is in fact a total gun ban in the US.
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Old 02-22-2018, 01:28 AM
 
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Many people are sick of the empty promises by politicians who are owned by the NRA. No one has proposed taking your guns away. Why the hysteria from gun owners? These students have faced a slaughter of their classmates and the Righties are trying to criticize their right to protest by calling these kids actors. They have a right to Disagree with the gun laws on the books now. The politicians are getting nervous because this isnít going away until something is done. Why does the NRA give these politicians millions? Something is wrong with that alone.
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Old 02-22-2018, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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With gun grabbing Liberals there is no common sense, just pure emotional lunacy. Its really difficult for them to grasp the fact that killers simply dont care about laws. I mean, how hard is that to understand? Their common sense gun law as seen on CNN's town hall (fruitless debate) just last night is to ban all semi automatic weapons, thus technically wanting to eliminate Americans 2nd amendment right.

If gun laws worked so well, secret service wouldn't have the need to protect the President/ politicians, and banks wouldn't have the need to install 3" ballistic glass, and there would be no need for TSA in airports.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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With all the current hysteria oven gun control at the moment this quote from James Madison comes to mind: ""...there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations..."
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:59 AM
 
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Many people are sick of the empty promises by politicians who are owned by the NRA. No one has proposed taking your guns away.
The FL bill that was voted on (whether it should it be considered outside normal procedure) does exactly that. It lists a ton of firearms and associated accessories that they will in fact be taking away. The "extraordinary procedure move" was defeated by majority vote in the FL House, but it was indeed a proposal to take guns away from people.
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Why the hysteria from gun owners?
Because of bills being introduced that seek to make today's legal gun owners tomorrow's criminals because overnight, one of their legal firearms became an outlawed weapon and they the outlaw. That's unnerving, wondering if by stroke of pen, something you do legally today makes you a criminal tomorrow.
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These students have faced a slaughter of their classmates and the Righties are trying to criticize their right to protest by calling these kids actors. They have a right to Disagree with the gun laws on the books now. The politicians are getting nervous because this isnít going away until something is done. Why does the NRA give these politicians millions? Something is wrong with that alone.
The NRA is private citizens exercising their freedom of association to remind the government that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. But the NRA doesn't decide how they vote on things, nor do they bring bills to the floor, vote in committee, etc. If anything makes politicians nervous, it's the electoral track record of running on "take away your right to do XYZ" platforms, or governing that way and then trying to get reelected. Serious anti-2A campaigns tend to lose and lose badly, without any help from the NRA whatsoever.

Rights still matter to people, even the wake of tragedy.
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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How many more of our children have to die before the gun-controllers finally start advocating programs that work for a change?
It's going to be great now that you won't be allowed to shoot anyone until you're 21. Chicago and Baltimore are going to have housing crisises due to all of the extra people this will save
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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First they'll tell you what guns you can't own. Then they'll tell you what cars you can't own. Then they'll tell you what books you can't read, what television shows you can't watch, what radio stations you can't listen to.
Then they'll tell you what you can teach your children and what you can't teach them. What you can't say online and what demonstrations you can't have. What candidates you can't support. Then what you can and can't eat and where you can and can't live.
All this will be done under the guise of protecting you from somebody else and for protecting someone else from you.
But rest assured, certain people will still be allowed guns, still be allowed to eat what they want, entertain themselves as they see fit, and live how they want. They'll just be a whole lot richer than you and will have very high connections to the people running things.
One thing is getting forgotten in all this. it doesn't matter what politicians say and what the media says about gun ownership. Its what the PEOPLE say. And if they want to own firearms, they will and that's the end of the discussion.
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:38 AM
 
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The left likes to use the term "common sense" as precursor to taking away a right or a freedom, not unlike an armed robber who might shout "stick em up!"
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Many people are sick of the empty promises by politicians who are owned by the NRA. No one has proposed taking your guns away. Why the hysteria from gun owners? These students have faced a slaughter of their classmates and the Righties are trying to criticize their right to protest by calling these kids actors. They have a right to Disagree with the gun laws on the books now. The politicians are getting nervous because this isnít going away until something is done. Why does the NRA give these politicians millions? Something is wrong with that alone.
Which gun laws do the kids disagree with? Can you be specific?
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Micronesia
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The FL bill that was voted on (whether it should it be considered outside normal procedure) does exactly that. It lists a ton of firearms and associated accessories that they will in fact be taking away. The "extraordinary procedure move" was defeated by majority vote in the FL House, but it was indeed a proposal to take guns away from people.

Because of bills being introduced that seek to make today's legal gun owners tomorrow's criminals because overnight, one of their legal firearms became an outlawed weapon and they the outlaw. That's unnerving, wondering if by stroke of pen, something you do legally today makes you a criminal tomorrow.

The NRA is private citizens exercising their freedom of association to remind the government that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. But the NRA doesn't decide how they vote on things, nor do they bring bills to the floor, vote in committee, etc. If anything makes politicians nervous, it's the electoral track record of running on "take away your right to do XYZ" platforms, or governing that way and then trying to get reelected. Serious anti-2A campaigns tend to lose and lose badly, without any help from the NRA whatsoever.

Rights still matter to people, even the wake of tragedy.
Clear and succinct, well said.
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