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Old 02-20-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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So, you're resorting to arguing semantics? You know what we mean, even if we are using the term "statistically insignificant" imprecisely. Let me help. The number of people killed in mass shootings is so infinitesimally small that it defies logic that so much time is spent talking about it. It's even more appalling that some folks are seriously suggesting that our constitutional rights be infringed over it. Worse, it distracts our leaders from focusing on issues that affect a wide swath of the population and can actually be solved - or at least mitigated.

Pedantic discourse doesn't make you clever. Annoying would be a more appropriate term.
I'm quite sure if it was one of your children that was innocently killed, you would think differently. Then again, maybe not.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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I'm quite sure if it was one of your children that was innocently killed, you would think differently. Then again, maybe not.
What does your question have to do with this discussion?

Think about what you're suggesting. You're saying that the response to every traumatic event, no matter how few lives are impacted, should be revised public policy that will negatively impact hundreds of millions of people? You can't be serious.
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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What does your question have to do with this discussion?

Think about what you're suggesting. You're saying that the response to every traumatic event, no matter how few lives are impacted, should be revised public policy that will negatively impact hundreds of millions of people? You can't be serious.
The question has everything to do with the discussion.

What's your next argument, natural death kills far more people, so nothing should be done about any other causes? No , the "public policy" should have been revised long time ago, to positively impact hundreds of millions of people.

Terrorism kills way way fewer people in this country than gun violence. Would you recommend stop fighting it as well?
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Old 02-20-2018, 07:12 PM
 
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Liberals just want to ban and confiscate guns, inch by inch, even before they import enough foreign electorate to repeal the 2nd amendment outright.

Liberals aren't fooling anyone anymore. Anything a liberal is for I'm against and want to do the opposite.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I'm quite sure if it was one of your children that was innocently killed, you would think differently. Then again, maybe not.
Ah, yes, the emotion card. "Put yourself in their place, and you'll understand." Because the only way to understand the utter lack of logic is to pretend that you are emotionally devastated.

If one of my children were the victim of a mass shooting, I would hold two parties accountable: the person who committed the crime, and the government which required that my child be defended only by a sign which said "no guns allowed."
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles E of Sacramento
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How come most mass shootings occur in democrat states or democrat counties?
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:33 PM
 
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The question has everything to do with the discussion.

What's your next argument, natural death kills far more people, so nothing should be done about any other causes? No , the "public policy" should have been revised long time ago, to positively impact hundreds of millions of people.

Terrorism kills way way fewer people in this country than gun violence. Would you recommend stop fighting it as well?
Holy convoluted logic, batman!
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Bran's tree
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How come most mass shootings occur in democrat states or democrat counties?
Same reason it happens more in "gun-free zones". Those areas don't have border control, but they do have a guarantee of law abiding people within those areas not being armed = victims on a platter.

Having arbitrary gun-free areas won't prevent mass shootings if guns are easily accessible nearby and easily brought in.

Gun policy pretty much has to be uniform either way among any area that isn't separated by patrolled border security.

Either strict gun laws throughout, or strict gun rights throughout.

With the spottiness and inconsistency, the US pretty much has the worst of both worlds in this regard.
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Old 02-21-2018, 04:04 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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So, why does a country with such ridiculously lax gun laws have 30 times the amount of gun deaths (per capita) as other first world nations................tough one that.
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Old 02-21-2018, 05:35 AM
 
Location: USA
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So, why does a country with such ridiculously lax gun laws have 30 times the amount of gun deaths (per capita) as other first world nations................tough one that.
If we're to believe the far-right, the insane amount of guns in this nation has nothing to do with the gun violence. It is utter lunacy, but that is what they want you to believe.

Instead, they want to pretend that "because laws can be broken, we shouldn't have gun laws." Based on that logic, why have any laws at all?

Or, they instead focus on mental health problems, while at the same time demanding unaffordable healthcare for most of the people. The only time the far-right gives a damn about mental health issues is when looking for an excuse to protect their gun arsenals.

Just remember: we live in a nation where there are more states where you can legally own a room-clearing mass-murder gun than where you can legally smoke a joint. Nobody can say that is remotely sane with a straight face.
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