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Old 02-21-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: USA
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We now live in an America where real-life survivors of horrible mass shootings now have to go on TV to assert they are not "crisis actors." Good job, America!



It's a bad day in America when victims are attacked by the opposite side of the political spectrum. The wrong side of the argument first claims the attacks aren't actually happening and the victims are "crisis actors." But when the survivors start speaking out against AR-15s and other similar guns, they're attacked for being misled by their parents or "indoctrinated" by folks for limiting some gun rights.

It's sickening actually.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/21/us/da...nse/index.html

He also denied letting his father, a former FBI agent, coach him to speak out against President Donald Trump --- an allegation that Donald Trump Jr. endorsed on Twitter.

SMH
“Blaming the victim” is what conservatism is all about. Poor people are just lazy, the mentally ill are just rebelling against God, and those kids got what they deserved because they didn’t know self-defense or something.

‘Murica.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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they are being used as pawns in the war on guns by the despicable liberal left.
No they aren't.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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So, you believe all these kids are engaged in fake outrage and being manipulated?

They just saw their friends lying dead in pools of blood.

There are useful idiots out there.

They are the mindless supporters of the gun lobby and gullible consumers of the vile conservative media machine.
The problem, while these particular kids may not be actors, in the past, crisis actors have been used to stage 'false flag' events, so its very hard to trust once this tactic has been used in an attempt to lie to the public, eventually people become so jaded, they do not trust anything that is reported. Its the media and Govts fault for it being this way.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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The problem, while these particular kids may not be actors, in the past, crisis actors have been used to stage 'false flag' events, so its very hard to trust once this tactic has been used in an attempt to lie to the public, eventually people become so jaded, they do not trust anything that is reported. Its the media and Govts fault for it being this way.
Examples?
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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The problem, while these particular kids may not be actors, in the past, crisis actors have been used to stage 'false flag' events, so its very hard to trust once this tactic has been used in an attempt to lie to the public, eventually people become so jaded, they do not trust anything that is reported. Its the media and Govts fault for it being this way.
When?
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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“Blaming the victim” is what conservatism is all about. Poor people are just lazy, the mentally ill are just rebelling against God, and those kids got what they deserved because they didn’t know self-defense or something.

â€Murica.
>>> As opposed to liberalism which is about blaming and punishing the innocent for the crimes of others.
Its gun owners fault someone uses a gun in a crime. Its someone else's fault if someone gets tried, found guilty and put in prison.
I was listening to Sirius Progressive with Thom Hartmann today. He was suggesting various ways to control guns and prevent shootings. He suggested magazine limits, banning semi automatic weapons, etc. That way if someone would start shooting it would give the victims a chance to stop them when they went to reload.
He didn't think about another other way... that if another person had a firearm they could just shoot the shooter.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The problem, while these particular kids may not be actors, in the past, crisis actors have been used to stage 'false flag' events, so its very hard to trust once this tactic has been used in an attempt to lie to the public, eventually people become so jaded, they do not trust anything that is reported. Its the media and Govts fault for it being this way.
:c rying::cry ing::

It's your fault for not taking the time to think before you buy into something so obviously fake. I mean, THINK for a minute. How likely is it that two actors could grab and hold national public attention without a single peep from the 3000-some students in this school, let alone their parents?

BTW, this fake story is not being promulgated by the government or by the MSM. It is being promulgated by particular right-wing sites. And they've done this before. So a good first rule of thumb is to avoid the sites that are doing it. You won't see this kind of bull**** being peddled by the National Review. Or even (shudder) Fox News.

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Old 02-21-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Meet the gun culture. There is a significant minority of people that live and breathe guns and anything that is anti gun is the epitome of commie evil.
No shortage of trolls, Russian or otherwise, who sieze on all sides of debates. The intent is not about outcomes. Rather it is to plant, nurture and sustain divisiveness in a population predisposed to divisiveness because of free speech and politicians and media who feed off them.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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With all due respect. Teenagers aren't known as the sharpest tools in the shed. They sure think they are however.

Nobody on "conservative media" as you label it, is advocating the harm to them, or anyone else. Anyone else includes law abiding citizens that would have their civil rights further infringed upon, by passing more laws for them to adhere to, while the criminals (persons whom would shoot up a school) would continue to ignore such laws.

You are simply advocating for a position of anti 2nd amendment, and promoting the use of these students that have been thru a traumatic event, to be the same useful idiot that libs look for to further their agenda of subjugation of the masses.

I know utilizing common sense such as this is totally lost on firmly entrenched libs. Ultimately, mental health is the real issue in play here.

I have yet to see anyone interviewing these students, if they would have used a gun against the person shooting at them and their fellow students, if one were available to them, to defend themselves. I wonder why it is that that is a conveniently forgotten question to these victims?....... I suspect the answers wouldn't fit the left wing media's narrative.



CN
You were never a teenager? You say they aren’t sharp, yet advocate they carry guns.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The problem, while these particular kids may not be actors, in the past, crisis actors have been used to stage 'false flag' events, so its very hard to trust once this tactic has been used in an attempt to lie to the public, eventually people become so jaded, they do not trust anything that is reported. Its the media and Govts fault for it being this way.
Help me out here, please.

When have crisis actors been used to stage false flag events?
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