Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Let that sink in for a minute. We are being held hostage by the demands of a small minority of Americans.
Thank you for that. Bookmarking it now. The Right loves to talk about how the Left is in the minority on a lot of their ideas. But 31% is a real minority. Yet they are the most vocal. SMH
Lol, teachers are paying for supplies because we can't bring ourselves to fund education in this country, but you want to pay teachers to be armed? You gun nuts are stupid.
I haven't gone through 13 pages of this, but has anyone actually stopped to think that even if we have an armed guard at the school, and position him at the (only) entrance in our school/prison complex of republican/nra wet dreams that the shooter will still have the element of surprise. All we're basically doing is an early warning, but that's not really much help for those kids, is it? You gun nuts are stupid.
Have I mentioned how stupid you gun nuts must be? I seriously can't wrap my head around the absurdity of these "ideas," for lack of a better word...
Overly emotional name calling really doesn't add to the conversation.
No. I am saying that introducing MORE of something that can kill into a school only increases the likelihood of an accident. Humans aren't perfect, gun owners aren't perfect, trained law enforcement are not perfect. Less guns in schools = less chance of a gun related accident.
Nothing involving humans is ever going to be perfect.
If we worried about that every day none of us would ever venture out of our homes.
They would have to go up significantly to cover the cost of training, maintaining and then providing insurance for all these volunteers. At a time when funding for actual education is being cut, and when many teachers are having to spend their own money for supplies because there is no budget for them. You are dreaming if you think, A, the taxpayers will stand for this massive tax increase; and B, they could raise taxes enough to cover the costs anyway. The liability insurance alone would be prohibitive.
And to heck with spending our education dollars on actual education, huh? We can't wonder why American students continue to fall further and further behind their counterparts across the globe when we are willing to divert billions upon billions of dollars earmarked for education to pay for armed bodyguards instead.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world, who aren't owned by the NRA and the gun lovers, can continue to spend on education so that their future populace can compete in the future, leaving Americans in their dust.
And all because a few people have to have their semiautomatic toys.
Very naïve viewpoint imo.
You could take all guns away from law abiding citizens today and the people who want to shoot up schools would still be able to obtain them illegally.
What then..........you still have the same problem of school shootings that we have today.
Two teachers died shielding kids in Florida. They said they ran in the time the shooter reloaded, just the time it would take to snuff them out if armed.
Dependent on location, visibility was poor and students were streaming into the hallways.
I prefer to focus on what can be reasonably done to prevent a whack job from entering a school with a gun instead of relying on volunteers to react to an active shooter.
Miss LL Story
My sixth grade teacher ( private school a long time ago) had a breakdown in the classroom, during class. She worked herself into a rage about her BF and pulled a small pistol out of her purse and set it on the desk in front of her. The possibility she might turn the gun on the class never enter our minds. We thought we were going to wittness a suicide.
We all remained seated and watched/ listened to her rant. She eventually got up and put her head through the glass in the classroom door. Nuns arrived.
The class was escorted to the adjoining church and told to pray for Miss LL and we did. And that's the last we ever heard of Miss LL
Parents were not notified. My mother dismissed the story when I told her and thought I made it up. My sister, in the same small school, had not heard about it. Beyond an occasional crack about
" going nuts like Miss LL", no one spoke of the incident.
Mr. W Story
Mr B was a Social Studies teacher in high school. He tended to spend most of the class reading a newspaper and ignoring the students. One day he became enraged about about a remark made by a kid. He eventipually flung himself out of the third floor window.
Next day we had a sub. Parents were never informed. I have no recollection of Police.
My point here is that a good guy with a gun is as likely to have emotional regulation issues issues as anyone else.
This school, like most, had no measures to prevent anyone from entering the school with a loaded weapon
Prevention works better than reaction, especially in the midst of a mass shooting.
The Las Vegas Concert was a gun free zone. Had concert attendees been permitted to open or conceal carry, it would not have deterred the shooter. He positioned himself at an advantage. No one in that crowd knew with any certainty the source of fire. Chances are, the carnage would have been much worse had concert attendees started shooting at eachother. It's difficult to tell a good from a bad guy, in the midst of chaos at venues like this.
While I agree with your points, I'm not sure what it has to do with school shootings. The Vegas shooting has no comparison to a school shooting imo. Shooting into a barrel from a high rise hotel is totally different than invading a school campus.
Thank you for that. Bookmarking it now. The Right loves to talk about how the Left is in the minority on a lot of their ideas. But 31% is a real minority. Yet they are the most vocal. SMH
The math here isn't necessarily accurate though if it doesn't include non-gun owners who support the 2nd Amendment. I mean you don't have to own one to support it. I never had an abortion, but in many cases support the rights of a woman to have one.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
