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Old 02-23-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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N.J. property taxes hit a record high in 2017. See the numbers for your town. | NJ.com

Wonder what they get for all that tax money?

$11,000 in property taxes for the average home in 3 counties. Yikes!

I know in some of the lowest property tax jurisdictions in Arizona like Sierra Vista and Yuma, a good-sized single-family home has property taxes in the $1,000-$1,500 range.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...rect/9_zm/2_p/

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...18_rect/10_zm/

Wonder why they don't vote like they do in Nevada and Arizona to keep their own money, rather than paying $11,000 property tax bills for an average home?
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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7 reasons why N.J.'s property taxes are highest in U.S. again | NJ.com

I have a feeling socialism is a buzz word not properly used in context here...

Part of the biggest reasons is that people DO VOTE to keep the municipalities small and individually run. Each little town generally has its own police, government, and schools which contributes to the cost. In Texas, for example, you have ISDs which can encompass large areas of multiple cities.. it keeps the cost down... but with that comes other issues.

It is pretty naive to say that the mear presence of high property taxes equates to socialism.. esp when you dont' really understand the reasons why NJ has high property taxes. Yeh.. its wrong... but at least know what you are talking about.




I was raised in TX. I left after graduating and never will return.

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Old 02-23-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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I know people will assume it is because of democrats but more often the towns with the highest property taxes in NJ are republican.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:14 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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I know people will assume it is because of democrats but more often the towns with the highest property taxes in NJ are republican.
Yup. There is a mix of Republican and Democrat influences in NJ. I like it that way... it forces people to negotiate/compromise to better serve the communities comprised of a wide variety of people (views).

I think its funny when people who are implying pro-capitalism don't realize that comparing highly dense and highly desirable area to an area that isn't as desirable nor dense is pointless. There are many products that do the same function. However one (branding, image, features, quality) demands a higher price because if desirability... limited supply. It is like they forget that market greatly influences price.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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Tax rates define something as socialist?
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:19 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Before one can discuss taxes (property tax I assume), one should understand how property tax rates are determined here in NJ.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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N.J. property taxes hit a record high in 2017. See the numbers for your town. | NJ.com

Wonder what they get for all that tax money?

$11,000 in property taxes for the average home in 3 counties. Yikes!

I know in some of the lowest property tax jurisdictions in Arizona like Sierra Vista and Yuma, a good-sized single-family home has property taxes in the $1,000-$1,500 range.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...rect/9_zm/2_p/

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...18_rect/10_zm/

Wonder why they don't vote like they do in Nevada and Arizona to keep their own money, rather than paying $11,000 property tax bills for an average home?

I don't think anyone would accuse Texas of being socialist yet I know several friends who pay $30K + in taxes.

Cali and Mass are probably the most left leaning states in the US.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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At least they were honest about giving credit to Christie for slowing the rate of rise of property taxes. This particular publication hates Christie, so I was a little surprised they mentioned it in the article. But I guess he’s not in office anymore, so “what’s the harm?”

Under Corzine my NJ property taxes were going up 5% per year. Under Christie it slowed down to 2%. Im afraid the new governor will remove Christie’s cap though.

I’m already paying $30K on a 4000 square foot house on a half an acre. But the school system is amazing, and I have 3 kids, so I don’t mind so much. It would cost me $100k to put them in a good private school around here.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I know people will assume it is because of democrats but more often the towns with the highest property taxes in NJ are republican.
That was my experience, having lived in NJ twice, in two very different communities.

As a transplant, what struck me was that there were so many dinky ( albeit lovely) home rule municipalities and more school districts than municipalities. Tremendous redundancies.

There are 600 School Districts. 45 have fewer than 200 students.

Then there’s the legacy public pension mess

NJ is one of the highest income and wealthy states. 2016 median household incomes:

NJ - $76,126
AZ- $53,558
NV- $55,180
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:58 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I don't think anyone would accuse Texas of being socialist yet I know several friends who pay $30K + in taxes.

Cali and Mass are probably the most left leaning states in the US.
They have no state income tax though. NJ does. I’m paying close to 10% on some of my income, on top of the property taxes.
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