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Old 02-26-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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So it was constitutional to create DACA through executive order but not undo DACA through executive order? How does that work

 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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the ruling only means that the issue still has to work its way through the appellate system, it doesnt mean the scotus wont hear an appeal.
I never said it wouldn't. Again, reading comprehension.....
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Liberals have no comprehension about immigration laws. Here illegally, get the boot. Regardless of circumstance.
The courts do not agree with you.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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So it was constitutional to create DACA through executive order but not undo DACA through executive order? How does that work
The Supreme Court did not rule that. They ruled that there is a process that this goes through and it hasn't yet.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:33 AM
 
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A Trump FAIL is not even news any longer - too many lies, reversals and failures to even keep track of. I'd say he is running about 90/10 in terms of good/bad as a POTUS.

Considering that even someone with a 70 IQ could score better than that on a multiple choice test, it actually takes a certain kind of talent to be a bad as Trump. You have to know the right answer, but intentionally choose the wrong one. This, I think, is his way....and his minions love him for it.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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A Trump FAIL is not even news any longer - too many lies, reversals and failures to even keep track of. I'd say he is running about 90/10 in terms of good/bad as a POTUS.

Considering that even someone with a 70 IQ could score better than that on a multiple choice test, it actually takes a certain kind of talent to be a bad as Trump. You have to know the right answer, but intentionally choose the wrong one. This, I think, is his way....and his minions love him for it.
They did the same thing to Obama.

Supreme Court Rejects Obama Appeal to Rehear Immigration Case
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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So it was constitutional to create DACA through executive order but not undo DACA through executive order? How does that work
This is the key question and this is where the answer lies. The SCOTUS made the right call here. Let me explain.

When Trump wrote his executive order regarding DACA, he did not actually rescind Obama's unconstitutional order on DACA. Instead, he announced that he was PROMISING to rescind it in six months, if Congress has not come up with a solution. He can still do that, but he has not done it yet.

So the SCOTUS, understanding that the current president has the power to overturn this executive order of a past president whenever he wants, for good reason, for bad reason or for no reason, has no reason to extend any sympathy to Trump here. Trump can cancel DACA today if he likes. So far he has not done so, because it is his public position that existing DACA cases should be legalized. He wants the courts to rescind it for him.

Politically, Trump does not want to overturn DACA, because he wants to say he is in favor of it, at least as far as the previous applicants go. He has not overturned it yet and so SCOTUS is just saying that we will stay with the current law until this case winds its way through the system. At that point, they will almost certainly declare Obama's order unconstitutional. But the SCOTUS does not like to weigh in until the lower court process has exhausted itself.

And again, Trump can end all of this discussion today with a stroke of a pen, if he is willing to expend the political capital required to do so.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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So it was constitutional to create DACA through executive order but not undo DACA through executive order? How does that work
That’s how it works in liberalville. Legislation by litigation.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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As everyone here knows, I'm no Trump fan--but the MSM bias here is egregious..this is no 'Blow to Trump' nor is it a rejection. In fact, it has nothing to do with Trump at all..just a procedural thing. SCOTUS wishes the case to go through all the procedural steps, going through the lower courts first, before ruling.

Trump is in favor of DACA..and wants the Dreamers to have a path to citizenship--he has said so many times. He just wants to use it as a bargaining chip to get his wall. The only way that works is if the decision stays in Congress, thus Trump's seeking to end the illegal executive order.

Just politics..nothing more or less.
Today I heard Trump refer to 'doing something' re chain migration and 'doing something' re the visa lottery. He may have used that term before, but I hadn't heard it. 'Doing something' is a weaker position than 'ending'.
 
Old 02-26-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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That’s how it works in liberalville. Legislation by litigation.
As Sparttacus713 explains, this whole thread is a nothing burger. Nothing has changed.

Maybe that's why the OP uses so many exclamation points.
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