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Old 02-27-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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If you can't believe this guy, who can you believe !



He even looks wacky in that depiction of himself.
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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I never quite understand why the left just doesn't release the info if it has nothing to hide. If it's all on the up and up, wouldn't that in fact be justification of your truth instead of prolonging the supposed "accusations" that you continually allude to?
Because its about the privacy of the people involved. Because maybe people dont want to be hassled because some group got their data?

Note-they did offer to release data about dead or withdrawn registrations in order to define the scope of the problem. Turns out they dont want that-they want to have some vague accusation instead.
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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The UK offers dual citizenship, as does the country where I live, but after looking at the benefits, hassles and costs of going through the application and testing process, it wasn't worth it. I also don't "feel" Danish. My loyalty is to the woods and pastures of New England. I do get to vote in local elections, through, once every 4 years. I vote my conscience, not my wallet.
My GB neighbor told me himself he couldn't vote. I think he wishes to return there someday. Quite a lovely area he's from (I got the fortune to visit once). He's a good guy...our political views are quite opposed but nonetheless a great neighbor.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Illegals registered to vote already?
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They promised us NSA would not break our 4th amendment either...
They make a lot of promises they never intend to keep.
Another nonsensical exaggeration.


People are on to you.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Illegals registered to vote already? Another nonsensical exaggeration.


People are on to you.
News Flash: The NSA did violate the 4th amendment. According to the IG and Judge Collyer of the FISA court of DC, they said the NSA systematically violated the 4th amendment for five years of the Obama admin. It caused both the FISA court and the FBI to change their policy's on applying for FISA warrants. This is common knowledge.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Maybe trump should appoint a commission to look into this kind of voter fraud.

Oh, wait.....

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...banded/549641/
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President Trump announced he was disbanding his Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity Wednesday, citing a desire not to engage in “endless legal battles at taxpayer expense.”

The genesis of the commission was the president’s baseless claim that “millions” of illegal votes had cost him the popular-vote victory in the 2016 election, when his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton won about three million more votes. Neither the commission nor the president ever turned up evidence supporting Trump’s claim, but the panel became a source of controversy as civil-liberties and voting-rights groups accused the body of violating privacy protections and transparency obligations.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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They promised us NSA would not break our 4th amendment either...
They make a lot of promises they never intend to keep.
In Illinois everyone votes many times including the dead.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Doesn't really matter though does it. A non-citizen doesn't get to vote anyway. My neighbor is from Great Britain. He's here as a legal US resident, but he didn't give up his British citizenship. He has no right to vote here for National elections (I do think that some states and cities allow green card holders to vote locally). Residency and Citizenship are two completely different things. I would think both sides would want to see this whole mess cleaned up.....

There's no mess to clean up. Non-citizens are not entitled to vote in our national elections. Period.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Maybe trump should appoint a commission to look into this kind of voter fraud.

Oh, wait.....

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...banded/549641/
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It was disbanded because governors of states suspected of having mass voter fraud refused to comply and share voter data with the federal commission. It was very smart of Trump to smoke the guilty parties out of their holes. Now they know for sure which states, and more specifically, which counties to focus on. While he disbanded the election commission, he also passed this case to the DHS. The DHS has been quietly chugging away & will have it all sorted out before midterm voting. The D's will not like the results or stricter measures to vote in the midterms.
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Old 02-27-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Right, but they aren’t “illegals” in the sense that’s being talked about here
Hard to say, really. "Non-citizens" can be illegal or legal immigrants.


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The UK offers dual citizenship, as does the country where I live, but after looking at the benefits, hassles and costs of going through the application and testing process, it wasn't worth it. I also don't "feel" Danish. My loyalty is to the woods and pastures of New England. I do get to vote in local elections, through, once every 4 years. I vote my conscience, not my wallet.
The US doesn't "offer" dual citizenship; it doesn't recognize it. I'm a dualie and when crossing US borders (entering or exiting), I'm required to represent myself as a U.S. citizen. When entering/exiting other countries where I hold a passport, I use that country's passport because I'm either supposed to or am legally required to. I claimed citizenship in other countries simply because I could and it gave me the opportunity to live/work there without needing a visa. No other reason. I keep them valid because it's a bigger hassle if I let them expire. People have all kinds of reasons for having dual citizenship but as far as the U.S. is concerned, I'm a citizen of the U.S. and nowhere else. Even when living in Germany on a German passport, I was a U.S. citizen in the U.S.'s eyes with all the responsibilities of one (like filing income taxes every year, which I did).


Personally I think if you're going to live here for the rest of your life, you should become a U.S. citizen unless it really unduly burdens you (i.e. you risk losing your citizenship in your birth country, which is the case for some). For most first-world nation citizens, this isn't an issue.
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