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African Americans aren’t the ones that came up with the Melting Pot concept, then decided to chuck it when it came to specific groups.
That forced my tribe to rely on and trust each other and to be wary of outsiders. How can you be upset about that which is a natural response?
Melting pot was originally referring to the various European nationalities and ethnicities. It was blacks that demanded to be fully integrated with whites and even have enforced equal outcomes. Now you're blaming whites because blacks don't want to and/or can't fully assimilate lol.
And we can spot anti-American and anti-white progressives a mile away. Who are you to say all whites aren't being disadvantaged and unduly burdened? I say they are.
I don't think you can. Far from anti-American here says the veteran and current government employee who has served HER country since high school JROTC. The veterans I work with every day would disagree with you. Did you served your country or currently work in the government? As far as anti-white, that's a basis spin rhetoric of deflection because people that are anti anything don't have personal daily interaction and relationships with people from all backgrounds and races ! I never said all of anyone is not disadvantaged. In fact, I don't think anyone said all anyone is anything except you.
Melting pot was originally referring to the various European nationalities and ethnicities. It was blacks that demanded to be fully integrated with whites and even have enforced equal outcomes. Now you're blaming whites because blacks don't want to and/or can't fully assimilate lol.
Blacks never demanded integration. Blacks demanded equal justice/protection under the law. That means the ability to do whatever whites do. It doesn’t mean that we want to have dinner with you.
You choose to believe that it was about integration because you like flattering yourself. Hate to bust your bubble, but you’re not that appealing.
Enforced equal outcomes? You conservative whites say that axiomatically....but that’s just as bunk as your assertion about integrating. There isn’t a black person in history that has ever said that. There are however, a lot of self flattering whites who have fooled themselves into believing that blacks have said it and believe it. After all, what is it about YOUR outcome that’s so desirable?
Sorry, but I’d much rather be in my position than in yours.
That said, I’ll give you credit for being honest about that Melting Pot B.S.
Blacks never demanded integration. Blacks demanded equal justice/protection under the law. That means the ability to do whatever whites do. It doesn’t mean that we want to have dinner with you.
You choose to believe that it was about integration because you like flattering yourself. Hate to bust your bubble, but you’re not that appealing.
Enforced equal outcomes? You conservative whites say that axiomatically....but that’s just as bunk as your assertion about integrating. There isn’t a black person in history that has ever said that. There are however, a lot of self flattering whites who have fooled themselves into believing that blacks have said it and believe it. After all, what is it about YOUR outcome that’s so desirable?
Sorry, but I’d much rather be in my position than in yours.
That said, I’ll give you credit for being honest about that Melting Pot B.S.
Pure BS. MLK and other "civil rights" activists didn't want the existing separate but equal segregation laws they wanted to be able to go to white schools, live in white neighborhoods, date white women etc. You yourself have repeatedly said you want to be able to go anywhere you want to be, which is never an all black school, neighborhood, workplace or area.
Affirmative action, EEO, disparate impact theory, diversity programs etc are really all about forced outcomes and you would never back up the talk with wanting them to end.
It's based on Asians being more law abiding, not being confrontational and trashy, and being productive.
I don't consider Asians as better or not, I see them as unnecessary rat race competition and based on their voting patterns suspiciously counter culture. If you vote for god forsaken liberal, progressives then you are declaring yourself my enemy and the bane of my identity and culture's existence.
Let's see - you praise Asian Americans for being hardworking, and then in the 2nd paragraph, you slam them for being competitive?
Let's see - you praise Asian Americans for being hardworking, and then in the 2nd paragraph, you slam them for being competitive?
Who we vote for is none of your darned business.
It's entirely my business who they vote for and who gets to immigrate to America. I don't want to be ruled by the party they vote for. Everything single thing they do in America is my business.
Pure BS. MLK and other "civil rights" activists didn't want the existing separate but equal segregation laws they wanted to be able to go to white schools, live in white neighborhoods, date white women etc. You yourself have repeatedly said you want to be able to go anywhere you want to be, which is never an all black school, neighborhood, workplace or area.
Affirmative action, EEO, disparate impact theory, diversity programs etc are really all about forced outcomes and you would never back up the talk with wanting them to end.
There was no such thing as “separate but equal,” so your whole premise stinks. There was only enforced separate but unequal and poorly funded for black folks.
If things had been truly separate but equal, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
And of course I wanna do whatever I want...just the same as you do. And that’s exactly what I’m gonna do.
Pure BS. MLK and other "civil rights" activists didn't want the existing separate but equal segregation laws they wanted to be able to go to white schools, live in white neighborhoods, date white women etc.You yourself have repeatedly said you want to be able to go anywhere you want to be, which is never an all black school, neighborhood, workplace or area.
Affirmative action, EEO, disparate impact theory, diversity programs etc are really all about forced outcomes and you would never back up the talk with wanting them to end.
LOL on the bold and blue. MLK and other "civil rights" activists did not want to be able to go to "white" schools or date "white" women lol.
MLK and various other black activists wanted black people to have opportunities that were equal to those of other Americans - not to be around white people. To this day a significant amount of black Americans mistrust white Americans and I know very few black parents who want their kids to go to "white" schools or be with "white women." LOL. During the 1950s and 1960s in particular, this mistrust was very much more prominent than it is today because of the very recent and at that time, current attacks and terrorism they endured from the white population.
On the blue - is it your contention that black people should not be able to go anywhere we want to go? Seems you are showing a much more blatant view of yourself with that comment. I actually do want my kids to go to an HBCU and have always preferred, since I reached adulthood to live in a predominantly black neighborhood. As a black person in America, I am not unique in this POV and FWIW there are large amounts of black people in this country who want nothing to do with whites at all - black nationalists. Recently, applications and admissions to some of the top HBCUs in the country have risen nearly 100% since all of these news pieces about race/racism have occurred, and more black students are attending HBCUs as a result and hopefully will continue to do so. The National Geographic just published an article about this. Why Historically Black Colleges are Enjoying a Renaissance
You don't know much about the history of the civil rights movement it seems or the major and minor players/voices in the movement. It was not about being around white people. It was about having educational and economic opportunity and freedom of movement without being raped, terrorized, and killed by white people just because we are black. You also seem to have in inflated view of what you believe blacks think about whites. We don't think you are better than us to any wide degree or are some prize to be around. That is evidence of some sort of supremacist mindset in regards to your view of blacks and whites IMO that has no basis in reality.
There was no such thing as “separate but equal,” so your whole premise stinks. There was only enforced separate but unequal and poorly funded for black folks.
If things had been truly separate but equal, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
And of course I wanna do whatever I want...just the same as you do. And that’s exactly what I’m gonna do.
The bold is very correct.
If, after the Civil War, equal separation had occurred, and blacks were not terrorized, tortured, raped, killed, etc., and had the same educational facilities as other demographics, I doubt the Civil Rights Movement would ever have occurred.
LOL on the bold and blue. MLK and other "civil rights" activists did not want to be able to go to "white" schools or date "white" women lol.
MLK and various other black activists wanted black people to have opportunities that were equal to those of other Americans - not to be around white people. To this day a significant amount of black Americans mistrust white Americans and I know very few black parents who want their kids to go to "white" schools or be with "white women." LOL. During the 1950s and 1960s in particular, this mistrust was very much more prominent than it is today because of the very recent and at that time, current attacks and terrorism they endured from the white population.
On the blue - is it your contention that black people should not be able to go anywhere we want to go? Seems you are showing a much more blatant view of yourself with that comment. I actually do want my kids to go to an HBCU and have always preferred, since I reached adulthood to live in a predominantly black neighborhood. As a black person in America, I am not unique in this POV and FWIW there are large amounts of black people in this country who want nothing to do with whites at all - black nationalists. Recently, applications and admissions to some of the top HBCUs in the country have risen nearly 100% since all of these news pieces about race/racism have occurred, and more black students are attending HBCUs as a result and hopefully will continue to do so. The National Geographic just published an article about this. Why Historically Black Colleges are Enjoying a Renaissance
You don't know much about the history of the civil rights movement it seems or the major and minor players/voices in the movement. It was not about being around white people. It was about having educational and economic opportunity and freedom of movement without being raped, terrorized, and killed by white people just because we are black. You also seem to have in inflated view of what you believe blacks think about whites. We don't think you are better than us to any wide degree or are some prize to be around. That is evidence of some sort of supremacist mindset in regards to your view of blacks and whites IMO that has no basis in reality.
That's just not true. MLK and others wanted blacks to be made equal in outcomes to white, with affirmative action, socialism etc. They wanted to live to the standards of white outcomes but preferably without the white people. That's an impossibility or at least would require them to completely transform themselves and their culture.
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I never said all of anyone is not disadvantaged. In fact, I don't think anyone said all anyone is anything except you.
